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- December 17, 2008 at 9:05 pm #39989bivolParticipant
hi!
i’m a bit confused here; how does an eastern design of a single ox yoke appear in central europe, and just there?
historically, forehead and head yokes were used in germany. than the three pad ox harness was invented. these systems were all more efficient than the eastern yoke, so why did that design even get a hoothold? did it come from german empire’s colonies?
my guess is that indigenous german yoking systems were more effective, because of eastern yoke’s redicolously small touching surface. somebody prove me wrong.this is from china
now this is from germany. btw unicorn hitch
fabian, elke, do you know something about it? cause i’d really like to know…
December 17, 2008 at 9:26 pm #48554fabianParticipanthellao Bivol/Boskarin,
there were areas in Germany (in the east) where the wither’s yoke (as a single or also as a double yoke) was in use.
It was usual in the parts of Germany, which belong today to Poland. Therefore it is also in Germany an “eastern yoke” .;)Wolfgang
December 18, 2008 at 8:01 am #48551CharlyBonifazMemberbtw unicorn hitch
???please explain…..
how does an eastern design of a single ox yoke appear in central europe, and just there?
Heinrich Steinmetz in his book “Kuhanspannung in Deutschland” (1936) explains, that double withers yokes took a foothold in the beginning of the 19th century in Pommerania. The Prussian government however already in 1907 forbid the use of these yokes.
So I’m not sure how it got there, but it didn’t last long for the negative effects could be obviously seen.
elkeDecember 18, 2008 at 5:51 pm #48549bivolParticipantthank you for your explanations. unicorn hitch means two animals are hitched one aside of another, and a third in front.
December 18, 2008 at 9:46 pm #48552CharlyBonifazMemberunicorn hitch means two animals are hitched one aside of another, and a third in front.
true 😉
yesterday I couldn’t see the first? picture, and with the picture below it didn’t make sense; today there seems to be another one up front … from China? can’t see that one either……
sorry, I am too blond for computers 😮harnesses for cattle were only invented after the withersyoke; people realised padding might be an option, or an increase in touching surface, so the padding spread on downwards from the withers along the shoulders…….
elkeDecember 18, 2008 at 11:20 pm #48547HowieParticipantI am just wondering if the people who think their ox needs a padded yoke have their plow handles padded.
December 19, 2008 at 12:40 pm #48550bivolParticipant@Howie 4093 wrote:
I am just wondering if the people who think their ox needs a padded yoke have their plow handles padded.
no, but remember that the ox provides the force to pull the plow through soil, and therefore the pressure on the ox is far greater than on man’s hands, man only holds the plow into place.
December 19, 2008 at 6:21 pm #48555fabianParticipantI think, that more important than padding is the surface area.
December 20, 2008 at 12:57 am #48548becorsonParticipantI agree Fabian, more important than padding is the surface area and WHERE the pressure of draft work is applied.
for any that might have an interest, here are some thoughts about harness theory from a perspective of animal anatomy :In cattle, the neck is about the strongest part of the body. by strong i mean “able to move a lot of weight” and also “able to take a lot of pressure and abuse”. In horses, the back and shoulders are very strong and “tightly made”.
In contrast, the bovine back is flexible …. and there is also a lot more loose connective tissue under the bovine shoulder compared to the horse.
( as a pathologist, it’s my part to take horses and cattle apart every day, so i feel pretty confident in saying that! )anyway, the differences in the neck , chest and shoulder between the two species goes a long way, i think, to explaining at least some of the differences in harnessing technique.
another way to explain differences in harnessing techniques, of course is socio-economics. Historically, oxen were used in relatively undeveloped areas, right? and they are still used in the poorest areas of the world, because they CAN be harnessed with very simple technologies, the kind that you can make yourself even if you only have a machete in your tool box.
if you are rich enough and educated enough, you make a carefully designed harness from wood, leaher and metal, or a beautifully fashioned neck yoke or a head yoke……and the animals would certainly work better
but the majority of oxen working today are not owned by rich people.
those skinny harsh looking yokes on oxen in Nigeria and in India, and Nicaragua are not used because they are efficient or comfortable for the animal, but because nothing else is available.
that’s the work that Tiller’s International and other groups are trying to do; to improve animal draft power technology world wide. i have been thinking about this topci a good deal, since the International Conference on Oxen at williamsburg Va, a month or so ago. it was an inspiring convention and made me want to go volunteer somewhere! but philosophizing on this forum will have to do for now. (sorry!)December 20, 2008 at 7:05 pm #48553CharlyBonifazMembermore important than padding is the surface area.
doesn’t that come hand in hand, too?
padding will increase the contact area especially if both parts don’t show an exceptionally well designed complimentary fit
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padding is necessary in places were the body doesn’t provide any naturallythere is also a lot more loose connective tissue under the bovine shoulder compared to the horse.
I think, that is exactly why a 3-pad-collar is “high technology”, not only in construction but also in application: it has to follow those shoulder movements threedimensionally without constriction and still function under a lot of pressure/draught
elkeDecember 20, 2008 at 7:59 pm #48556fabianParticipant@CharlyBonifaz 4137 wrote:
padding is necessary in places were the body doesn’t provide any naturally
elke
I forgot to write this .;)
The forehead-yoke must be padded of course.
The neck-yoke does not need any padding (my opinion) for the neck has “padding” enough. - AuthorPosts
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