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- January 25, 2009 at 8:51 am #40127
amanda07
ParticipantHi, I’ve just obtained a little trinqueballe and am looking forward bringing the wood out with it over the next few days. This will be the first time I’ve used one. Does anyone have any pointers for it’s correct use, things to avoid etc; Put up behind my mule the winch part looks rather close to his back end. Thanks in advance. A
January 25, 2009 at 8:55 am #49487Robert MoonShadow
ParticipantWhat is it? And what’s it look like? Please.
January 25, 2009 at 9:52 am #49485Mano
Participanthttp://hippotese.free.fr/reportag/logger02/grtrink/trinkbal.htm
sorry, but cant help you really
January 25, 2009 at 11:24 am #49489ParticipantHi, Robert,
I’ll try to put a pic in the gallery….
Cheers AIt comes up in the index under ‘A’. Thanks
January 25, 2009 at 12:35 pm #49482Ira
ParticipantCould you post a pic of it in operation, please? I have never seen one and would like to see how the mule is harnessed to it. I’m guessing your in France?
I do like the idea for single horse/mule logging.
I understand your concern about the log being to close to your mule, but not sure what to suggest to correct it, without seeing it being used.January 25, 2009 at 2:26 pm #49479Gabe Ayers
KeymasterThese devices are called “Big Wheels” in the south and were used to move
large logs in the pine coastal areas of the entire southeast. I have seen them in photographs where they were used to completely suspend the log buy putting them in the middle of the log, weight wise and then pulling the tongue down and binding it to the log and hooking the team directly to the log. The obvious limitations of this device is that it is strictly used on level ground and for long lengths of wood. We happen to have one in a museum here in our local county. It was the original log arch I suppose and they could move some really big wood on level ground. I have seen similar versions of the same concept of putting the wheels over the log and pulling the tongue down to lift it and provide suspension for skidding or carrying the logs considerable distance to an on site mill or loading spot. As the timber got smaller there seems to have been developments of smaller versions of this device. I consider our current log arch such an evolving of that concept. Given that our logs are not that large anymore and that we do lots of downhill skidding this current version serves well. Some of the later models had a ratchet arrangement so that as the tongue was pulled down it was held by a lift mechanism like the ones on old plows that lift themselves when tripped. There is one of them in a museum in Richmond, Va. There are versions of this device that are all steel and very rugged. Some actually don’t have a tongue but studded wheels that when placed forward and the log is pulled forward the wheels catch and lift the logs into the ratcheted
raised position and lock to be skidded to the landing. This is a nice device, with the exception that an old man can’t ride on it….Cool that someone is Europe is digging these devices out of the past and using them today. I suspect there aren’t many wheel wrights that could make one today.
January 25, 2009 at 2:56 pm #49480goodcompanion
Participant@Biological Woodsman 5301 wrote:
Cool that someone is Europe is digging these devices out of the past and using them today. I suspect there aren’t many wheel wrights that could make one today.
Witmer Coach Shop in New Holland PA could probably make one for as cheap and as good quality as anywhere. They offer all sizes of wheels.
January 25, 2009 at 6:23 pm #49488ParticipantThanks, Amanda… that’s an interesting device.
January 26, 2009 at 10:13 am #49490ParticipantHi Ira, yes we’re in France where in this region at least we see few pairs!! most of the work is between rows of vines so that makes sense.. As soon as we can get out (it’s been raining slush again) I’ll post some pics. and will be pleased to hear what you think. Thanks
Jason, logging with horses is a growing interest here. I have two friends who log with singles (for their own needs). There’s more and bigger around but just not near us. The issue of level ground is perhaps my greatest concern (apart from my mule getting a log up his posterior!) the lands here are terraced but in very neglected; Still if we drag to the path and perhaps hitch it up from there…. A
Joel, Hi, the winch is at about 120cm -150cm and the mule is around 17hh. What’ the relation between height of the beast and the winch? AJanuary 26, 2009 at 11:34 am #49483ParticipantHi Amanda, What does “trinqueballe” translate to in english? My french is nonexistant:(. I’m going to guess that it is necessary to run a chain between the uprights to keep the log from swinging ahead into your mule. I can also see the potential for a lot of the weight being transferred onto your mule’s back, so I am curious to see how your harness is designed to deal with it.
I understand completely about the uncooperative weather :).January 26, 2009 at 2:38 pm #49486Anonymous
InactiveAmanda07
the logging arch with the winch, not the set of big wheels further back, right?, it’s a matter of how long your tongue, or shaves are.what you bought was probably just set up for a smaller horse. the big wheels were used here in central oregon a lot, we got a good set here in the local park. really big, probably at least 4 times what are in the photo’s on that link. for moving the old growth ponderosa pine. bob h.January 26, 2009 at 9:32 pm #49481Participant@Ira 5350 wrote:
Hi Amanda, What does “trinqueballe” translate to in english?
I think that would be “trink ball” in English.
Actually, it’s not in any dictionary I have. Look at those pictures–that there is a trink ball. As far as I can tell, “trinqueballe” makes as much sense in French as “trink ball” does in English (“trinquer” means to clink glasses, “balle” means ball.)
I do like “big wheel” too, that name has good associations for me. Noisy, but good.
January 27, 2009 at 2:03 am #49484Participant@goodcompanion 5366 wrote:
I think that would be “trink ball” in English.
Actually, it’s not in any dictionary I have. Look at those pictures–that there is a trink ball. As far as I can tell, “trinqueballe” makes as much sense in French as “trink ball” does in English (“trinquer” means to clink glasses, “balle” means ball.)
I do like “big wheel” too, that name has good associations for me. Noisy, but good.
Thanks Erik, I was wondering if “trinqueballe” would translate to log cart or something similar.:)
January 27, 2009 at 9:01 am #49491ParticipantAs goodcompanion says the direct translation doesn’t help much. However, as I asked around a bit, i’m told that timber lorries have ‘trinqueballes’, that being the trailer…
I like ‘big-wheel’. If it works I think I’M going to call it that. If it doesn’t, I’ll call it……. A - AuthorPosts
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