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- April 27, 2009 at 1:20 am #40485AndreParticipant
I will find the bones of buried pigs and hang them on your clothsline.
First line of poem on the inside cover of latest SFJ.I encourage my kids to read this magazine.
Explain this to an 8 year old girl.
No explain this to me.April 27, 2009 at 1:31 am #51935PlowboyParticipantWe quit getting it because of the politics and bazaar editorials. It used to be great but Lynn gets off on some tangents now days. More worried about the government than the actual day to day work of the draft animal world which we are all really interested in instead of rampant BS.
April 27, 2009 at 2:00 am #51943tsigmonParticipant@Plowboy 8273 wrote:
We quit getting it because of the politics and bazaar editorials. It used to be great but Lynn gets off on some tangents now days. More worried about the government than the actual day to day work of the draft animal world which we are all really interested in instead of rampant BS.
I agree. Also the the last few issues have been late or non existant for me and no respondse from SFJ
April 27, 2009 at 1:04 pm #51927Carl RussellModeratorWhat started as a labor of love, has turned into outright labor, and I know Lynn has been trying hard for several years to find someway that he remains inspired by SFJ, which has led to a more eclectic expression.
In my mind it is still the best publication that I can subscribe to. There is no other publication that is more connected to the community that I have interest in.
One person’s creative expression is often misunderstood by many, and SFJ has always been an attempt by Lynn to include the expressions of many in concert with his own, a huge, uncertain, and generous enterprise.
Carl
April 27, 2009 at 4:19 pm #51949OldKatParticipant@Carl Russell 8280 wrote:
What started as a labor of love, has turned into outright labor, and I know Lynn has been trying hard for several years to find someway that he remains inspired by SFJ, which has led to a more eclectic expression.
In my mind it is still the best publication that I can subscribe to. There is no other publication that is more connected to the community that I have interest in.
One person’s creative expression is often misunderstood by many, and SFJ has always been an attempt by Lynn to include the expressions of many in concert with his own, a huge, uncertain, and generous enterprise.
Carl
I have subscribed to SFJ since 1983 and have a copy of every edition they have ever printed. An Amish guy in Pennsylvania named Andy Raber introduced me to it & I have taken it ever since.
I never did get much into the editorials or the letters to the editor for that matter, just skimmed through them. Mainly I focused on the actual articles. Last year they had a deal where you could sponsor a subscription for a high school library, FFA chapter, etc and they would match it with another subscription to that school or to another school.
My wife and I are big on FFA, me being a former Ag teacher, so we sponsored 3 high schools. Last week I was visiting one of the Ag teachers at one of the high schools that we had sponsored. He told me “I was looking through the magazine that you sent to us, man there is some radical stuff in the editorials and the letters to the editor. WHO subscribes to this stuff anyway?” I mumbled something about “forget about the editorials, just have your kids look at the articles”. Kind of an awkward moment. Not sure we will sponsor any schools when the renewal comes up.
That said; I know Lynn has had a tough time trying to keep all of his irons in the fire. I don’t have any idea how he has been able to do all the things he does AND put out a periodical. It has to be tough keeping that many balls in the air at the same time. Kind of like a friend of mine use to say “sort of like wrestling an octopus”. Hopefully he will be able to figure something out, because as Carl said it is still what I consider to be one of the best publications I can subscribe to. (For me it is for the draft animal info)
April 28, 2009 at 1:29 am #51936PlowboyParticipantNo matter what the cause extremism isn’t effective. It usually makes the extremist look like a freak. The Articles haven’t been that great lately. Nothing like they were in the 80’s and 90’s when they were about people working animals in practical settings and their were bits of wisdom intertwined in them. RH is losing it’s lustre lately too. Draft Horse Journal is back on the top of my list. It has had many great articles in it about real working animals and teamsters.
April 28, 2009 at 2:01 pm #51951Robert MoonShadowParticipantWhile I was in prison, I wrote to Lynn, asking how much a single copy cost – and instead of replying, he sent a free copy… I wrote the magazine a letter requesting information (or sources of same) on farming with donkeys, explaining that being in prison, my ability to locate any info was limited. He printed the letter, and not one, but two different people chose on their own initiative to pay for a 1-year gift subscription for me. I never heard much on actually working with donkeys, but the generosity and willingness of not just this company, but the community it represents, impressed me.
And I find the Nordell’s articles, and information gleaned from the letters sent in to be quite useful at times. It also put me on a trail that eventually led me to this site.
I’ll keep my subscription going.April 28, 2009 at 5:20 pm #51934Michael ColbyParticipantSorry, folks, but I respectfully disagree. The “radicalism” of Lynn Miller is exactly what the farm movement needs. And, please, don’t forget that “radical” means “getting at the root” of things.
The fact that Miller combines his political radicalism with his agricultural radicalism is precisely what drew me to his endeavors. Miller understands that it is the political apathy of the various sustainable ag movements that has led to the dire predicaments that we are all in now. We never pushed back as advocates when the “get big or get out” mentality won the day and forced this nation’s small ag-producers into near-extinction. And too many of us still refuse to understand that there is a necessary political response that MUST accompany our practical/skillful response.
But Miller gets this. And bravo to him for being the visionary that he is.
As for the specific line of poetry that Andre is particularly confounded with, I say: Let it mean what you want it to mean. It is, at the very least, a great image. Offensive to a child? Lighten up. Because I’d bet “the children” would enjoy it (and move on) way before we had a chance to worry about it.
Besides, the line in question sure means a hell of a lot more to me than “peace through strength,” “war on terror,” and “environmentally-friendly nuclear power.”
But, then again, this is all coming from a man who found Scott Nearing’s politics way-more inspiring than his insufferable demands that we all dig our ponds by hand, etc. So, as usual, take it with a grain of salt.
Go, Lynn Miller, go. And thanks for holding a mirror to the madness while showing us a different way.
April 28, 2009 at 5:26 pm #51948near horseParticipantI too was disappointed in SFJ when things started to get “out there” and there also was a lot of repeat articles EX. McD #9 mower stuff in both a mid 90’s issue and a 200_ issue. BUT now I have a different perspective, one which I think applies to our DAP discussions as well:
1) take from it that which suits your needs
2) disregard that which you find incompatible w/ your perspective or needs
3) contemplate those things that may challenge your current ideas and then decide whether to employ #1 or #2 above.I think Lynn has taken on a challenging task in SFJ to try and provide pertinent, interesting and new information related to horse farming and to expect it to be perfect and all things to all people are unrealistic and unfair expectations. I, for one, now have a new appreciation for SFJ.
April 28, 2009 at 6:12 pm #51945Donn HewesKeymasterSay what you like but no one has worked harder to keep our horse farming community going for the last thirty years. Lynn maybe more of a showmen than me (I mostly stay home) or more of a salesmen than me (magazines and auctions and books and all), but when I started to learn this craft he helped me out with books and magazines that made it possible for me to join this world. I will always thank him for that.
As for poetry, I didn’t get it either, but I can live with that.
Nice article Donn… Thanks
April 28, 2009 at 10:50 pm #51937PlowboyParticipantThere is no doubt Lynn has compiled alot of good information from old books and manuals and compiled into his books. His books are great and his magazine was and maybe can be again. It has a broad audience but it is narrowing because I know of at least a dozen others that are letting there’s go disappointed in the content. While folks should be well informed and proactive radicalism still makes you look like a freak to the masses and the public will have a hard time taking you seriously. I have written successful articles for some major magazines and maybe I should send some to Lynn if I get some new one’s written because he sure needs content. I do event coverage and profile/biographical articles on places I’ve been and my panel of mentors. I hope for the sake of the publication that it can be what it once was in the near future.
April 29, 2009 at 1:17 am #51928Carl RussellModeratorThe long and the short of it,is Lynn is an artist, a painter, poet, and performer. SFJ has always been one of his creations. He decided from the beginning to open it up to a community, to grow a community. His focus on draft animals in the publication has more to do with his vision of the creative human experience on the land raising food, family, and contributing to society than with someone’s personal expectations about why they may buy a magazine about horses. Like all artistic expressions, not every body will be able to appreciate it, but the “lacking content” is in large part because he has opened to pages to people to contribute their own work, and his editorials are his own way of contributing. SFJ is way more than a magazine about working horses, and anybody who picks it up for the latter purpose would be rightly disappointed.
As for his views being any more extreme than anyone else’s, who gives a hoot. Year after year he rings the same tune. He is unyielding in his vision, which my not be agreeable with some, but I see it as very clear. The problem, if there is one, comes from the fact that he has a tendency to capitalize on his knowledge, which is offensive to some, and causes others to be jealous.
I happen to be one of his die-hard fans, not so much for his horse-sense, particular knowledge about equipment or working horses, nor for his political views, but as a public artist, who has been brave enough in his expression to allow it to include an unimaginable number of other people.
I know for a fact that Lynn is not the least concerned whether “the masses” view him as visionary, or extremist, he is moved to express himself, and he, by god, has built himself a platform.
Carl
April 29, 2009 at 1:55 am #51933ngcmcnParticipantYou may not agree with everything written in the SFJ or wish there was different content………….to me Lynn and his family, care enourmously about small ag. ,draft animal power and quality of life apart from mainstream beliefs. Thats good enough for me.
neal mcnaughten
unity, me.April 29, 2009 at 3:44 pm #51941Rick AlgerParticipantIn the same issue there is an announcement of a new venture called “Small Farms Consevancy.” It sounds like a useful concept to me. I’d like to hear what others think.
April 30, 2009 at 12:37 am #51929Carl RussellModeratorIt is something Lynn has been brewing for a couple of years now. It seems like it is how he sees SFJ adapting to a higher level, using the connections for more than information trading. I like the concept, but a project of that magnitude stymies me. I will try to contribute on a more local basis.
Carl
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