Vote on skid carts

Most of the time a single. A lot of the time I just fell the trees and bucked them ( bucking had more to do with my plan that the felling as far as my skidding went ) so I could hook a drag and skid it to another tree , stop the team and back the cart up unhook the drag hook some more pull it up hook the hole load and go. Sometimes I would pull up to a drag , let some slack out on the load that I had on the cart, pull over the skid I wanted to hook , hook both drags , pull them ahead , back the team up, hook the slack drag tight pull ahead to even them , set them both and go. (In the time it took me to write this down I would have already been on the landing LOL. I am a better logger than typer for sure. )
When I fell a tree putting it in the right spot for the forest is the most important thing. The next thing I do is plan my skid. In the pine in the pics I would use my tape measure out 2 8′ mark the bark on the first one make my cut on the 2nd one. this pine was 6 to 8 sticks ( most any way ) so I would measure out the rest of the sticks wile I was limbing then fell another tree. After I had 2 fell , limbed and marked I would decide were to buck the wood so that I could easily put a skid together trying to keep every thing in at least 16′ lengths. Most of the time bunching the smaller logs up to the first cut letting the but cut log be hooked by its self. In this way in a row cut you can put big skids together with out a lot of trouble doing the hooking as I described up top.
Looking back at what I have typed I wonder if it will make any sense to anyone or not . But any way doing it like this allows you to bunch skids and not have to unhook the team from the cart , it sounds slow but it is not . I have had Lyme’s disease most of the summer and was still able to get out an av of about 3 cords and some days 4 or more in this little stuff. That is an average , some days all I did was cut , some days I just skidded wood. These are full work days not short days , there were some days I got very little out but weeks when I could work a full week with out an interruption I would av this no problem.
Scott you will love your cart , I mean they are handy to have for sure. Taylor Johnson

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If you can not find one already made maybe you can use ( print ) these plans of to get someone to make one for you in your area.

This arch works out pretty good, and it saves a lot of walking on you, and make it easier on the team or singles.

http://www.healingharvestforestfoundation.org/docs/Log_Arch_Plans.pdf

bumpus
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So as not to have to reiterate myself I will attach links to other similar discussions.

Log Arch
http://www.draftanimalpower.com/showthread.php?t=1597

Part-time logging
http://www.draftanimalpower.com/showthread.php?t=1452

Logging Arches
http://www.draftanimalpower.com/showthread.php?t=273

I will say that there are now blue prints for the Barden Cart. I don’t have them yet, but will have them scanned as soon as I do.

My only other reiteration is that even though the Barden Cart looks small and light, which it is, this is by no means a limiting factor. I move large hitches and large logs, and the design addresses features that do limit (at least in my mind) the other heavier and taller models.

You may not want to build a cart, but my opinion is that you will have a much more functional cart in the long run if you seriously consider the Barden design.

Carl

This is what I posted on another site about this cart being a copy .
Boys I don’t know were this is going but if I had the planes and blue prints , a ware house full of steel and a fully equipment shop I could not build or duplicate any thing.
Todd ( the man that built my cart ) from my understanding designed this cart him self and it is nice. I have never seen a Forestry brand cart in person but I have seen them in pics. I have a friend that has a Farmer brown cart down in southern MN and i have seen it and it is a dandy to but I have only seen it one day out of the last 2 or 3 years and that day it was about 26 bellow and I did not study it much . Like I said I could have pics , planes, steel, welder , all of that and could not duplicate a piece of equipment . I know when my buddy seen mine ( the one that owns the farmer brown cart ) and watched me use it he had opinion’s on what he liked and disliked compared to mine and I think mine is much heavier built than the forestry brand cart. They are a simple machine and most would have to be pretty close to the other just to work well as far as balance and what not goes. But I don’t know if some one is saying that I copied a forestry or a farmer brown cart but I can tell you I would have about as much chance of that as putting the moon in my pocket.
It is a long story about how I ended up making the trade , it started with fire wood for his mom and dad and ended with a diesel truck,, I got a cart and a gas power Air compressor so I am happy plus got to know a darn good man and made a good friend out of it . I am happy with the cart , the trade , and the buddy I have made. Taylor Johnson
Jason , I am not saying this is what you are saying I am just letting every one know how i got the cart. You would have to talk to the man that builds them to talk specs and details about the design. Tim did not like the way my evener hooks up on my cart but he did like the hight on mine , he said mine has a wider stance to, with the wide tires it is much wider. He did not like my seat compared to his cart he did like my carts balance and the floor . So like I said I do not know the details or specs but I know that I like my cart.
Before I cut my arm up bad I was talking to Farmer Brown about getting a cart from him, but after the injury the money was not there . If it were not for Todd being willing to trade with me I would not have this one. I would not steal form any one not even and idea. Because ford made a car does that mean Chevy stole there idea by making a car. The way I look at it Farmer Brown is like the Henry Ford of the horse logging community and if people are going to build something that works it will be close to his or one of the other types of carts out there. Mr. Brown made more since to me than a lot of people as far as putting out wood with horses. The longer I do this the more since he makes about some of the things he said and ideas he had. Down the line I will be doing it the way he does it . I think he is on the money with his operation, I might not do it exactly like him but it will be more like his than most . That might not be the right way to do it for every region but it will work for mine. So in a way I will be copying him but if you are doing things the right way people are going to do things like you . His method would not work well for Tim in his area or it might not work in some other areas of the country .
For most horse loggers it would be impossible to travel 10 or 12 hours to get a cart or any equipment for that matter. I know I could not, most people making a living with horses will have to buy equipment and supplies from the area they live in . Todd lives 2.5 hours from me and Mr. Brown lives in NY. If Mr. Brown lived 2 hours from me he would be sick of swapping with me by now and might give me a cart to leave him alone ( I am a fine trader of goods lol ) . When these markets come back and money is a little easier to come by I will be doing a little traveling and hope to meet some of you on this board and go to some of the events but right now all I do is work, work and a little more work ( well not right this minute like I said I am getting over a nasty case of Lyme’s )

If you look at walking plows , they are all pretty close in looks but are they all a copy of one another ? Same with regular fore carts. Just some thoughts on this hole thing. Taylor Johnson