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- December 20, 2009 at 5:12 pm #41198near horseParticipant
While cruising craigslist looking for a stock trailer, I ran onto this add for a team in MT (don’t know where Mission Valley is). Might be worth a look for those so inclined.
Draft Horse team for sale (Mission valley)
Date: 2009-12-19, 2:02PM MST
Reply to: sale-nqyzd-1517021919@craigslist.org [Errors when replying to ads?]2 coming 7 year old, Belgian/Brabant mares. They have been working together since they were 2 year olds on all types of small farm equipment – plow, disc, rake, mower, harrow, field drags, stoneboat, manure spreader, feed wagon, etc. They would make an excellent feed team for cattle and/or horses. They have not worked very much this past year, because of an injury that I had. They are a beautiful, well matched team that are kind and gentle out of harness as well. One has been ridden a little and done great. They are both very easy keepers and get along well with other horses and are used to being pastured with cows. They have great feet and never been shod, but trimmed regularly. They have well fitted and maintained leather harness. I am asking $3500 for the team and $4000 with harness. I can send pictures of them working on different types of equipment.
December 20, 2009 at 7:51 pm #56278Big HorsesParticipantThey’re North of Missoula, MT, not too far from me. If we hadn’t just found another Percheron to match one of ours, I’d probably be really interested in them. If anyone wants, we could probably run down and look at them for them.
JohnDecember 21, 2009 at 3:00 pm #56281blue80ParticipantThese mares are in St. Ignacious (sp?) and were trained by Marvin Brisk in Idaho.
We may be interested, but in the meantime, would appreciate experts’ thoughts.Thanks, Kevin
December 21, 2009 at 3:03 pm #56282blue80Participantactually st. ignatius, mt. Different place altogether…
December 22, 2009 at 2:30 am #56279Big HorsesParticipantI like ’em….but then, I like a draft horse that looks like a draft horse! 😉 We’re not too far from them, and there’s alot of good horsemen in that area. It’s a good thing we don’t win the lotto…:D
JohnDecember 23, 2009 at 4:34 am #56283blue80ParticipantIt looks to me like the mares are fitted with leverage bits, but not set to the extreme setting. So my question is, what methods/success have you all used to “soften” a horses mouth?
Thanks, Kevin
December 23, 2009 at 5:01 am #56275Gabe AyersKeymasterI don’t know if that is a general question?
The horses in the photos look sweet on the bit. I think that is a female driver and she looks pretty comfortable having them in hand.
I definitely use a lever bit and have for about twenty five years now. Before that we would have runaways, you can’t hold any scared horse with a snaffle or friction bit.
But that still means you have to have sensitive touch and reward their movement with lighter touch, giving them a little freedom every time they slow down or come back to you, in pace, in response to a reasonable contact in their mouths. If you are able to keep good form while driving you are able to keep the horses sweetly moving at a reasonable rate.
But there is a lot of feel to it and some horses have all sorts of history that any driver or trainer may take a while to get through and have a light touch with them.
Of course the lever bit is adjustable, so you certainly can put less effort into more signal and that softens their pulling on the bit and when adjusted properly won’t callous or scar their mouths, like friction bits.
I suspect some of the other hands on here can speak to this soften their mouths issue.
Good Thread man.
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February 28, 2010 at 2:39 am #56284blue80ParticipantThanks for posting that information Geoff, with a stroke of a pen and a 400 mile return drive, the mares are settling in here at the Blue 80!
Kevin
February 28, 2010 at 5:04 am #56276near horseParticipantHey Kevin,
Great! Congratulations on your new girls and Best of luck with them!!! Do you have other horses as well?
Where abouts are you – you know 400 miles is a hop, skip and a jump out here (especially in MT!)?
February 28, 2010 at 3:48 pm #56280Big HorsesParticipantCongrats!!! Wish I could’ve gotten down to meet you…. would much rather done that than what I had to do. It’s great to hear that they were what you wanted! Of course, pictures are in order now… 😉
JohnMarch 1, 2010 at 5:43 am #56285blue80ParticipantGeoff: We’re south of Billings 70 miles, in Lovell, Wy. These are the only “real” horses we have….
Thougth I’d get to know them today so trimmed Matildas feet, a couple months overdue. Next brought out the collars, and Maude saw me coming with them and made a run for it, but I had them in the round pen:p Matilda acted like the harness was the scary monster, took awhile to sack her out then harness her.
Ground drove each separately for 10 minutes, then ground drove both together for 10 minutes. “feelin their grain” would aptly describe them, they hadn’t been harnessed or worked in I think at least 6 months, and only a couple times in the past year….
Hooked them up to a full length telephone pole so the butt end would plow some dirt for a couple trips back and forth across the 80 acre length, but figured that if they were going to keep high stepping, might as well get some work done.
So hitched to the 7 ft. single disc I scored from the same place we got the mares, and a few hours (many stops in between) they had settled into a great pace and rhythm.
Really impressed with them so far, wondering what they are saying about me…Biggest issue to date will be to safely get them “unbonded” They really like eachother… I guess I’ll post updates in the member diaries with pics from now on…
Kevin
March 1, 2010 at 4:51 pm #56277near horseParticipantHi Kevin,
It sounds like the standard new 7 yr old team behavior – a little antsy about a new “boss” and surroundings, haven’t been worked much lately, and they’ve still got some youth in them. Keep it up – as many have said – repetition, repetition, repetition …..
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