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  • #41256
    Draft Horse Photos
    Participant

    My name is Rick Conley and I am a photo journalist specializing in horse events in the Kentucky/Ohio/Indiana area. You may have already used the link on the regular Green Mountain Links page to visit my website. The site has over 2,000 photos of primarily draft horses or light horses used in draft situations from the past 3 years. Feel free to stop by and visit us when you have the chance. Take the opportunity to sign our guestbook to let us know you were there. Here is one of my personal favorites:

    7%20Horse%20Hitch.jpg

    Rick Conley
    Conley’s Horse Photos
    http://www.DraftHorsePhotos.com

    #56626
    Carl Russell
    Moderator

    Welcome Rick. Nice photo.

    Can you tell us, from a working horse perspective, why this is one of your favorite photos?

    What is this photo showing us?

    Do you have a purpose for taking pictures of working horses?

    Can you show us how you are helping to advance the culture of working horses with your photography?

    I hope you can add something positive to this site, Carl

    #56632
    MNMULE
    Participant

    Hi Rick, I’ve been looking at your pictures for a couple years I go on a lot of wagon trains and enjoy seeing the pictures you have of wagon trains. Its fun to see the different places and people on your website. Maybe I’ll have to load up the mules and wagon and come down on that indiana ride some day.

    #56633
    Draft Horse Photos
    Participant

    MNMule – Glad you enjoy our photos. Yes, the Indiana ride is a lot of fun. This group is well organized and plans the ride out to the nnnth degree, leaving little to chance. On top of that, they are all really friendly, wonderful people.

    Carl – This photo was taken of Charles Orme of Mt Sterling, Ky. He is one of the top draft horse people in this part of the country (see the reference to him in the current DH Journal). He was driving 7 of his Belgians pulling a 2 bottom Pioneer plow. The reason that this is one of my favorite photos is because 1) Charles and his family are great friends and supporters of my website, 2) You seldom get the opportunity to see a large hitch working in this part of the country, 3) I had a great time that day and the photo brings back memories of that day, and 4) just because.

    Regarding my photography….I have been going to draft horse events and taking photos for well over 20 years now. In fact, I wrote an article about this back in the early 90’s that was pulished in the Draft Horse Journal at that time. Back in the 1980’s, I took my interest in photography and combined it with an interest in draft horses and, as they say, the rest is history. Since that time, I have made the pilgrimage to Milwaukee to photograph the Great Circus Parade, have provided the photo for the front cover of the DHJ (Fall ’05), served for several year as a Director of the Kentucky Draft Horse Association, am currently a very active member in 4 different draft horse associations in this part of the country, etc.

    I have been to hundreds of draft horse events over the years and I always pay my own way. I don’t ask for anyone to cover my lodging or milage expenses. My motivation is that I love these great animals and love the opportunity to capture them and their “people” in my photos. While I do occasionally sell some of the artwork I produce, this is not my full time work. I actually have a real job at a well known Indiana casket company where I work 10-12 hour days to provide the income we need to operate. Even when I do sell something, my prices are minimal and usually only barely cover the cost I incur to produce the work. If you have been to my site, you will notice that I do not “mask” my work like most photographers do to prevent folks from printing the photos right off of the websites for themselves. Finally, I get a lot of my motivation and personal satisfaction everytime someone like MNMule tells me that they have been to my site and enjoy viewing my work.

    As to the question of how I am helping to advance the culture of working horses with my photography, I would say that the hundreds of people who visit my website from around the world are all being influenced by what they see there. I have a monitoring service on the site that tells me what site the visitors come from and where they are located in the world. It tells me that many of these visitors are coming from search engines like Google where they are looking for information about draft horses. I suspect that at least a few of them are positively influenced by what they see in my photos.

    #56627
    Carl Russell
    Moderator

    Thanks Rick. I just did finally get to your site. You certainly do a fine job of presentation. And you have nicely captured many images that are beautiful, showing the enthusiasm of the draft animal community.

    I will just offer a bit of feed-back. It is a pet peeve of mine that so many photos of working horses are like the one you posted, your favorite. I absolutely appreciate your connection with the photo, showing such a fine teamster and comfortable animals. However, all it really shows is a man and seven beasts. There is no evidence of what he is actually doing with the horses. No clear view of how the animals are hitched. No representation of the magnitude of the undertaking. Very little, if anything, that can actually inform anybody about working horses.

    Another picture of horses’ heads may be interesting to some people, but I wish that the eye behind the lens could see more of the “work”. There definitely is a culture of “draft horse enthusiasts” who want to see “horses” no matter what they are doing, but I am more interested in seeing pictures that reflect the work behind the image, the equipment, the sweat, and the real life challenges that are the backbone of the successful working horse community.

    Keep up the good work, and thanks for posting your link, Carl

    #56634
    Draft Horse Photos
    Participant

    I understand Carl. Actually, I enjoy taking those photos, but don’t often hear from folks who are really interested in the details. Here are some links that show a little more detail regarding how these 7 were hooked up:

    http://www.drafthorsephotos.com/2008-04-19%20Ky%20State%20Plowing/album/slides/2008-04-19-1700.html

    http://www.drafthorsephotos.com/2008-04-19%20Ky%20State%20Plowing/album/slides/2008-04-19-1708.html

    #56629

    is that the reason for wanting “work-detail” ?
    here ist the first question:
    there are smaller chains loosely connecting the britchens to the plow; what are they good for?
    second question:
    steering: lines go to the first 3 horses; don’t bother to steer the other 4? they will follow the lead?
    third (not a question):
    I like your pictures of the oxen-team plowing :rolleyes:

    #56628
    Barw
    Participant

    I agree with Carl the detail is pleaseing to look at for us folks that work draft horses.
    The pictures are great.Like to see what other teamsters use for equipment also.
    barw

    #56631
    Simple Living
    Participant

    I will have to say that I spent hours doing research on Rick’s website before and after I bought my plow. Helped me figure out what parts I was missing. The plow (Oliver #11) works great now. I would also say that yes the pictures are great, but from a users point of view, details, the devil is in the details. Thanks for all the hard that you do Rick, the pictures are great!

    Gordon

    #56635
    Draft Horse Photos
    Participant

    Charly

    The answer to your first question regarding the light weight chains hooked from the breechings to the plow….. One thing that makes this type of rigging work is to ensure that no one horse can overpower any other member of the team, particularly the horse on the other end of the line that the horse is attached to. Those chains are “hold backs” to prevent the rear horse from overpowering the front horse if the front horse is not pulling as hard or is moving slower that the rear horse. The rear horse can only move so far forward and is held back by those chains. You will note similar chains from the traces of the front horse to the halter of the rear horses for the same reason, except these chains ensure that the rear horse moves forward when the front horse begins to move. With a well trained team, these are usually not a problem except when the team starts from a stop. Then, not every horse will respond at the same speed and these chains help prevent any problems.

    As to your 2nd observation….the teamster here is well known horseman Charles Ormes and his horses are well trained and respond to his voice commands. Charles is famous for the fact that he often whistles to the team to signal his intentions. His sons joke that one of them (who I won’t name here) could never drive the big hitch because he can’t whistle. Needless to say, this is not the type of hitch that one would want to try with green horses.

    #56636
    Draft Horse Photos
    Participant

    Charly

    The answer to your first question regarding the light weight chains hooked from the breechings to the plow….. One thing that makes this type of rigging work is to ensure that no one horse can overpower any other member of the team, particularly the horse on the other end of the line that the horse is attached to. Those chains are “hold backs” to prevent the rear horse from overpowering the front horse if the front horse is not pulling as hard or is moving slower that the rear horse. The rear horse can only move so far forward and is held back by those chains. You will note similar chains from the traces of the front horse to the halter of the rear horses for the same reason, except these chains ensure that the rear horse moves forward when the front horse begins to move. With a well trained team, these are usually not a problem except when the team starts from a stop. Then, not every horse will respond at the same speed and these chains help prevent any problems.

    As to your 2nd observation….the teamster here is well known horseman Charles Ormes and his horses are well trained and respond to his voice commands. Charles is famous for the fact that he often whistles to the team to signal his intentions. His sons joke that one of them (who I won’t name here) could never drive the big hitch because he can’t whistle. Needless to say, this is not the type of hitch that one would want to try with green horses.

    #56630

    Thanks, I’m learning …. 😉

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