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- January 2, 2010 at 7:33 pm #41258Does’ LeapParticipant
I converted to beta lines (from leather) last year and love them. However, I have been having trouble gripping the lines in this snowy weather. I am mostly bothered when working in the woods where I am really working the lines to get the horses where I want them (as opposed to driving a wagon). I have used Kinco gloves (leather, cloth mix you can buy at a feed store) and basic skiing-type glove – both get slippery in the snow. Do other folks have this problem? If not, what are you using for gloves?
George
January 2, 2010 at 7:57 pm #56652CharlyBonifazMemberIf not, what are you using for gloves?
an old pair of well worn and repeatedly resewn motorbike gloves; leather outside, some kind of fabric inside, halfway up to my ellbows, good grip and warm
my lines are cotton/polyesterJanuary 3, 2010 at 1:36 am #56640Carl RussellModeratorI use Kinco. In my mind the only glove to wear in the woods in the winter. I regularly rub in Mink Oil. This gives them a grippier quality. I also use Beta lines. They do seem slippery in certain conditions, but I have gotten used to it, and learn to overcome it in some way. Every once in a while, I have the grab a loop, wrap the lines around my hand. Not the safest, but better than letting them slip free.
Carl
January 3, 2010 at 2:04 am #56646J-LParticipantI use both leather and beta lines. I also use Kinco gloves (great gloves for the money) and at times have the same issue. I’m going to give the mink oil a try. I always have used it on my boots and its a good water proofer.
January 3, 2010 at 2:48 am #56656LostFarmerParticipantGood luck. I have tried lots of different gloves. My favorite are a pair I received for Christmas they are cheesy looking but have been real warm and not too slick. I also use the green cloth ones in bulk. Have 4 pair and take a set of dry ones to change out into leaving yesterdays 2 pair by the fire. The only thing you can do well with gloves on is wet your pants. LF
January 3, 2010 at 4:20 am #56654blue80Participantthis reminds me of a salesman I once met in Texas at a lumberyard sales event.
There are tool guys some that sell welding helmets and tire manufacturers and fastener suppliers. And the hit of the day for me, was a glove salesman.Talk about enjoying your work, this guy knew his stuff! His specialty was the cotton gloves with “rubber” coatings, though it turns out all the coatings were different.
Gloves that were for working with oiled steel.
Gloves that were working with rusty steel.
Gloves that were for working with rebar.
Gloves that were for working in concrete.
etc. etc.
The amazing part to me was the different grips that different polymer coatings had on different materials.Its rare finding a salesman that is knowledgable and “in” to his work, but I bet this guy would find a newfangled beta grippy glove if there was one.
Hope to hear more on this,
KevinJanuary 3, 2010 at 10:51 am #56649Donn HewesKeymasterGreat place for no pressure driving. My hands would freeze if I had to grip tight will plowing the driveway. Fortunately I can just relax my hands.
January 3, 2010 at 2:29 pm #56641Carl RussellModeratorI meant to say “Snow Seal”, but I also have used Mink Oil.
Donn even with no pressure the Beta lines can be slippery. It’s not so much about having to hold tight, as it is about grip. Although I do find that maneuvering around obstacles under load in the woods that horses tend to put more pressure on the bit, and need more contact for guidance.
My hands only get cold when the gloves get wet, and that is the primary reason why I treat the gloves with Snow Seal, but one side effect is the “grippiness”.
Carl
January 3, 2010 at 4:37 pm #56644PlowboyParticipantI have two pair of deerhide insulated gloves I bought at our local harness shop. I don’t recall the name brand though I think my Dad has a new pair with the tags still on so I’ll look. Two weeks ago yesterday I spent driving a 4-up of horses for 6 hours at 15 degrees hauling Santa Claus delivering gifts in a poor township. My hands never got cold although they were dry but one team wasn’t ours so the first part of the trip there was quite a bit of pressure until we got the bugs out and by the time we got back to Santa’s house they drove like a well rounded show hitch. I do like the Kinco gloves for work though warm and cheap as well as durable!
January 3, 2010 at 9:09 pm #56647Does’ LeapParticipantThanks for the replies. Carl, Snow Seal seems to make more sense than mink oil as I use lard on my Kinco gloves – probably a similar effect as the mink oil. You’re right, it seems to bother only in certain conditions (warmer, snowy conditions in my experience). Donn, I am a big proponent of low pressure driving, but this is more about being able to manipulate the lines rather than “gripping” (my word) the lines and putting a lot of pressure on the horses’ mouths. Plowboy, let us know the brand as I would be eager to try them.
PS I came in from pulling logs at 12 pm yesterday with stomach cramps and had my appendix out shortly before midnight. 2 weeks of no lifting more than 5 lbs!
January 3, 2010 at 9:56 pm #56650Donn HewesKeymasterGeorge, Take care of your self. That appendix really slows the logs to the landing! Donn
January 3, 2010 at 10:37 pm #56642Carl RussellModeratorGeez George, good to hear you made it all right. Might have to spend a little time on DAP??:D:cool::eek:
Take care of yourself. Not much less that 5 pounds on a farm.
Carl
January 3, 2010 at 11:33 pm #56639Gabe AyersKeymasterI just use leather lines, and know how to grab a loop like Carl if needed. The worst part about that is if a horse falls it could jerk you forward, if you didn’t let go just right. That would be a good measure of light touch, that your grip be sensitive enough that you don’t get pulled forward if one falls down. Sometimes the weather just multiples the difficulty of our already hard work.
I like good quality insulated leather driving gloves and get a pair when winter starts and by spring they are shot, if I’m lucky.
This year the weather has been terrible in the Appalachians, snow cover for about a month now, deep ice everywhere, not much work going on in the woods for the stove tending southerners these days. Wind chill 15 below, not a good time to work outdoors. I don’t know how you tough hided Yankees or far north westerner’s do it…???
We’ve been hauling lumber to the kiln, planing some, dimensioning locust decking, anything to stay at least behind a wall somewhere. Even shipped a horse to another biological woodsman today, this means caught it and lead it to the end of the driveway and handed the lead line to the woodsman in his trailer. Ain’t know getting in and out of our place with a truck and trailer at the moment.
It seems the weather has been kicking NE the last few days too… but you guys must be used to it..
I also have had a gut bug for a few days and are just now seeing normal feeling in the future. Glad to finally be feeling a little better.
Been reading Wendell’s new “Bringing it to the Table” collection of essays.
Good stuff!This book is less than 5 pounds George.
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January 4, 2010 at 3:53 am #56645Scott GParticipantAtlas Therma-fits for the winter and regular Atlas’s for the rest of the year. They stick like glue to Beta lines and for running a saw they are second to none. Ther are some cheesy knock-offs out there but a pair of Atlas only costs 6 bucks. I’ll buy 3-4 pair of Therma-fits for the winter and I’m good to go. Keep the extra pair with me to change out during the day if they get wet and my hands seldom get cold. Thro ’em on the defroster in the truck and there dry in no time.
Of course when we have the warm weather like they do down in VA when it only gets down to -15 or so nothing more than a long sleeve shirt is needed. If it gets chillier than that than I’ll usually wear gloves and a light jacket… 😉
January 4, 2010 at 12:51 pm #56643Carl RussellModeratorScott G;14182 wrote:…..
Of course when we have the warm weather like they do down in VA when it only gets down to -15 or so nothing more than a long sleeve shirt is needed. If it gets chillier than that than I’ll usually wear gloves and a light jacket… 😉It’s that DRY Colorado air. In NE we get a little moisture mixed in to draw the heat right out of you. :p
Carl
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