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- June 6, 2010 at 9:46 pm #41720KGerstner89Participant
I’m wondering how Texas longhorns would be as oxen since they are the breed that I want to train for just about eavrything they can do on a farm, but since I’m new to the draft animal I’m wondering are they going to be hard or easy to train if I get them as calfs.
June 6, 2010 at 10:01 pm #60617OldKatParticipant@KGerstner89 18838 wrote:
I’m wondering how Texas longhorns would be as oxen since they are the breed that I want to train for just about eavrything they can do on a farm, but since I’m new to the draft animal I’m wondering are they going to be hard or easy to train if I get them as calfs.
You are the guy near Wichita Falls aren’t you? I can’t give you any insight on working them as oxen; my inclination is that they would probably not be the best option there is around based on experiences I have had in dealing with them in the pasture. That is when people that are near by that have them and they end up in my pasture. I will not lease pasture land if a neighboring place has longhorns.
Of course, your qualifier was if you got them as calves and that might be a different story. There are some people around Pauls Valley, OK or somewhere up that way that ride them, rope off them and do all sorts of things with them. I think there was a link to them at one time on one of the threads on the Oxen forum, something about riding steers or similar. They might have more insight or know more about what you are asking, if you can find that link and contact them. Besides, if you are near the Falls you aren’t terribly far away from them.
June 6, 2010 at 10:44 pm #60638KGerstner89ParticipantYa I live in Burkburnett witch is just north of Wichita Falls. The place I’ll be keeping them is on my Uncles farm, behind his farm is another one that has about 6 longhorns and 3 donkeys and about 2-3 months ago one of there younger bulls jumped the fence over into our property. Apparently they had just brought the bull and the donkeys were not being nice to it so it jumped the old torn up fence witch they had since then replaced. I’ll try to see if I can find that link. I’ve always liked longhorns since they look very nice. My uncle says that if it dont work out then they will become part of the beef herd that is on the 10 acres.
June 6, 2010 at 10:51 pm #60618OldKatParticipant@KGerstner89 18840 wrote:
Ya I live in Burkburnett witch is just north of Wichita Falls. The place I’ll be keeping them is on my Uncles farm, behind his farm is another one that has about 6 longhorns and 3 donkeys and about 2-3 months ago one of there younger bulls jumped the fence over into our property. Apparently they had just brought the bull and the donkeys were not being nice to it so it jumped the old torn up fence witch they had since then replaced. I’ll try to see if I can find that link. I’ve always liked longhorns since they look very nice. My uncle says that if it dont work out then they will become part of the beef herd that is on the 10 acres.
Burk Burnett; now there was a true cattleman. Quite an interesting fellow, ranks up there with Goodnight, Loving and that bunch of pioneering drovers.
Longhorn bulls will go through the best of fences. I’ve never seen anything like it.
Paste this in your browser.
http://www.premierlonghorns.com/RidingLonghorns.html
Folks are in Stillwater, not Pauls Valley. Still not but about 3 hours or so from you.
Good luck,
OldKatJune 6, 2010 at 11:04 pm #60639KGerstner89ParticipantThanks for the link I was having a hard time finding it but I did find a longhorn breeder in Pauls Valley, OK that has no website. I’ve lived in Burkburnett for almost 21 years now since I’m about to turn 21 on the 28th of this month and there is no other place like it. I’ll try and email the folks at the link you gave me and see what they can tell me while I’m still waiting for my book to get here. Thanks agian for the link.
June 7, 2010 at 1:30 am #60640KGerstner89ParticipantOne thing I do know is that I want to eventually be able to drive my team from behind while sitting on a wagon or sled.
June 7, 2010 at 2:56 am #60609VickiParticipantHistorically, longhorns were used for the lead teams on freight lines in the southwest.
I know folks in Ohio who ride and train longhorns. They are smart and gentle if started young and handled wisely. I think they make good oxen if you can deal with the wide horns they eventually sport.June 7, 2010 at 6:42 am #60641KGerstner89ParticipantHorns can be manipulated in the direction that they go right so maybe instead of going out wide I thought I might could get them to go out then up, is that possable?
June 7, 2010 at 1:51 pm #60610VickiParticipantYes, training the horns as they grow is possible, you should be able to get them to curve up and back more than they would on their own.
June 7, 2010 at 1:55 pm #60611VickiParticipantHere’s a photo of longhorns being driven from the wagon http://www.ruralheritage.com/ox_paddock/longhorn.htm
and a story about a longhorn ox team owner
http://www.americanprofile.com/heroes/article/914.htmlJune 7, 2010 at 6:48 pm #60642KGerstner89ParticipantAnother thing I thought of was to train them to work in singles and as a team that way if there horns start to become a problem to work togather, then I could use them in singles or try to ride them like in that link OldKat gave me.
June 7, 2010 at 6:50 pm #60643KGerstner89ParticipantMy biggest question is will they be hard to train for a beginner.
June 8, 2010 at 1:34 pm #60612VickiParticipantHard or easy to train is often more a function of the trainer than of the animals. And hard or easy are relative: a smart animal is easy because he learns quickly, but hard because he thinks for himself and can act up or challenge more.
Dr. Drew Conroy lists longhorns as active and alert, with a tractibility of 10 (difficult). That’s the same as he lists Dexters, which I trained, which I like a lot. If you get the calves young before they get “wild” running with their dams, and you handle them well, I think you have a good chance for success.
June 8, 2010 at 3:20 pm #60613Joshua KingsleyParticipantAnother factor that Vicki and many others often voice is that if you really like the cattle you are more likely to have sucess than if you have a breed that you don’t like.
Joshua
June 9, 2010 at 2:50 am #60644KGerstner89ParticipantMy book Oxen A teamster’s guide is here and have been reading it all day.
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