Ox Content in Rural Heritage

hi!

Tim, you’re right, we have here enough experienced teamsters who could contribute, but we’d need a guideline, and i guess making articles based on them asking and we giving our opinions (covering a certain subject, like riding, for ex.) would help diversify.

if they’d ask, i guess we’d help them, but is asking really necessary?
from the founding of this forum we have covered lots of ox-related topics, and in lots of them there are real gems in form of answers, ideas, knowledge, guidelines, and experiences…
i tried to keep track by writing some of ox-man-ship-related forum stuff, and came to the conclusion we are really stacked with useful info.

if they’d ask something we here haven’t discussed here, i think we’d do our best to try to help, but since there are lots of useful subjects to pick from here, i’d advise that writers of RH at least read some of older threads in search for knowledge and ideas.

that’s my guess how we can help…. aside from answering questions.

also, i’m sorry to take a wild guess, but subjects concerning oxen in RH are, i presume, related to local new-england ox driving traditions. diversifying the subjects by adding ideas and experiences from other countries (aside Canada) could help diversify, esp. if the articles are “alike”.

i’ve never red rural heritage (i’d love to though), so, if it isnt already there, maybe a small “international” section, in which working animals – breeds, working conditions, management, technology, int. history, and so on- around the world could be covered.
say, caravans on silk road, mining mules of china, oxen in chile, elephants, and so on…

@Scott G 19891 wrote:

If you bovine power folks start submitting decent manuscripts with photos, chances are that Joe would publish them. “Build it and they will come.”

No contributions = No content

that would be like asking regular citizens to submit manuscripts about stories they’re involved in, and “if they’re good, the editor will publish them”.

LOL where’s the journalism here?

as i said, there’s ample information here, more concentrated here than anywhere else online, so anyone interested can google it out (and consequently not buy RH to read it there).
and since this all knowledge is here, online, in plain view of anyone interested enough, i guess it’s up to the journalists to make a pick at a story, and make it, because otherwise, interested people will read it here, and “the train already left”.

so, if kind people from RH want to make a story based on the knowledge here, it’s up to those same RH guys to ask, find, write and submit stories they think the audience will like.

references and questions will ofcourse be answered, if we can help, but it’s up to the journalists to be… well, journalists.

so, he asks, we answer, that’s how it could work for a portion of a text, but “we concept it out”, “we write it”, “we submit it”, and Joe “says OK”, umm, that’s a bit stretched, isn’t it?

we are just a bunch of online practitioners and enthusiasts, but we’re not journalists.

and there’s another saying:”i offer a finger and now they want an arm”.

oh, i see then. didn’t know that… well, it is logical, “from community to community”.
guess Scott’s right and i ain’t…. true enough.

but here’s the catch: i THINK (99% sure) i know how, for ex. some stuff works (like nose rings), but thinking ain’t going to do good if i didn’t already do it myself. which i didn’t.

now i can write about ideas and suggestions in a forum, but to write something from a mostly theoretical standpoint, and present it to the whole ox community in US and Canada (nay, the entire draft animal community), that would be bit overbearing of me, now wouldn’t it?
that’d be like putting a fistful of stuff i think is salt in an ocean and expect to have done good work.

esp. since there are here all around people who know a lot more than me…

Yes, I agree. Bivol, you have written many things that I think would be great contributions to RH.

i think they used them but can’t describe them, it’s like they used them like an instinct.

Pretty much have an idea that is exactly why we can find so little written information on working with cattle from the oldtimers; plus being busy in the fields or woods leaves you with little time for pen and ink

tried calling the president of Boskarin breeders/ maybe he can fix me an interview with some old-timers

bivol, I’d love to read some of that in here…….
can’t you agitate them by asking for the bonusses of working with Boskarin cattle?

texts i translated, that was all, i can’t use them due to copyright

any chance of contacting the original writers?

shoot it 😉

hi!

i just contacted the president of boskarin society, and i found out the following:
i’d have to go and arrange the interviews myself.
second, they’d probably expect to be payed for it, he said, there’s always someone coming around, asking questions taking pictures and some making a profit out of it, and the breeders have nothing out of it.

also, he said, St. Jacob’s fest is tomorrow, so he said i should come mingle with the crowd some hours before the start and ask every teamster or old-timer a few questions. he said, an hour o

the only problem is, i don’t exactly know what to ask;

since they can’t explain how they train the oxen, i thought i’d concentrate on:
1. history,
2. meaning of oxen back then for very survival,
3. vs. tractors,
4. ww2
5.

but i don’t know if there’s be anything like enough for RH; i’d still prefer a normal article. but we’ll see!

if some of you have some questions, feel free to tell me what i should ask!

Ixy, i don’t know. i think i’m not getting payed…

oh, yeah, AN UPDATE:

SEEMS I WON’T BE HEADING FOR ISTRIA AFTER ALL, THE CAR HAS SOME PROBLEMS… see it wants gasoline, and i won’t give it to him…

so the QUESTION SUGGESTIONS are not neccessary…

but i think i’ll devote myself to writing about nose rings, that’ll be useful…