Haybine Knives and Guards

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  • August 9, 2010 at 3:32 pm #41886
    Does’ Leap
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    Anyone know the make / model number for haybine guards and knives used on mowers? I know Mcnair carries them, but I wanted to see if I could source them locally. Also, for those of you using these guards: how many rock guards do you use closes to the inner shoe? How do you like this set-up? Any advice as to setting up a mower with them?

    I picked up a couple of MD #9 mowers and want to outfit one with some haybine guards. I use the”Easy Cut” system on my current mower and wanted to see how the haybine guards compare.

    Thanks.

    George

    August 10, 2010 at 2:05 am #61658
    Plowboy
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    Three stub guards then rock guards the rest of the way. Any farm equipment dealer should have them. If there is a New Holland dealer near you try them. They may look at you funny when you tell them what it’s for. They may also have them at Tractor Supply if there is one near you.

    August 10, 2010 at 10:55 am #61657
    Mark Cowdrey
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    George,
    I use 1 stub guard on a 5 foot bar cuz it came that way. Works fine. You may end up running your knife a tad tighter than you would w regular ledger plates. Anyone else find this to be so?

    If local turns out to be too pricey, try Shoup MFG CO http://www.shoupparts.com. I have been pleased w them also for rake teeth & drive chain.

    Mark

    August 10, 2010 at 11:38 am #61662
    mitchmaine
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    the amish use four or five stubs and remove their swarthboard. i tried using four stubguards and it seems to work well. hay never balls up there. i left the grassboard right where it was. but it works good for them. one amishman told me he thought hay didn’t dry well out there.

    August 10, 2010 at 1:11 pm #61660
    Donn Hewes
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    I use two stub guards but I could see useing three or four. When I first saw the amish mowing without a grass board it was in a high value crop like second cutting alfalfa. Definitely help them dry it. I have done a lot of clipping with out a grass board – it really in improves your steering, but for some folks I am teaching is is really frustrating because of more plugging. This year I have been doing more hay mowing as well as clipping and all the mower’s have boards on again. There is a stub guard made for haybines that doesn’t work so great. Get a good stub guard from Mcnair or Brubake or Peachy. A good stub guard is a pea guard with an up turned knife section riveted to it.

    As for the haybine guards, just make sure the hole spacing is right. I believe there are some John deere and poss. others that use a different hole spacing. I am off to find Rudy’s Repair shop in Fort Plain, NY today. Looking for push bars, guards, pitman parts, and seals!

    August 15, 2010 at 9:00 pm #61659
    Does’ Leap
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    Thanks for the responses. After checking prices at Mcnair’s ($275 for the rock and stub guards for a 5′ bar – knife is extra), I am going to stick with the “Easy Cut” system (http://www.schumacherlc.com/Schumacher_LC/Easy-Cut-II/). I can get the whole system (guards and knife) for the same price. This system has worked well for me, but I assumed the haybine set-up would be cheaper. One thing I really like about the Easy Cut system is that the knives are bolted on to the bar (knives on haybine systems are riveted, true?). So replacing one knife blade takes minutes.

    I am still intrigued about the stub guards. The easy cut system has no stub guards. I thought about trying to modify a couple of the guards near the inner shoe to make them stub guards (i.e. no top). I talked to the distributor about this and he mentioned that the knife may float up as result. The easy cut system has no hold down clips and the knives are alternating and cut on both the top and the bottom of the guards, thus creating a floating system. Are there hold-down clips near the stub guards? Why do stub guards work so well? Is it just that grass is less likely to clog without the top part of the guard? What is the purpose of these guards being shorter?

    Thanks.

    George

    August 16, 2010 at 1:56 am #61661
    Jay
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    George,
    I have one mower with no stubbies and one with 3. In heavier hay the it can definitely hang up on the regular guards. I like the stubbies and will be putting them on my other mower. When I rebuild mowers, I put at least 2 stubbies on. “Your mower should sing like a sewing machine as you mow.”

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