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  • #42047
    Andy Carson
    Moderator

    I got back from Tunbridge late last night/early this morning. I had a great time and it was wonderful to meet so many great people and have so many interesting conversations. I was in a bit of a rush to get out of there by 5:00 so didn’t have a chance to say bye to everyone. If I missed you, I’m sorry… I also wanted to especially thank Carl and Lisa for putting this meeting together and for all the work they put into it. i know there was some concern about the weather, but at least for me it didn’t seem too bad.

    PS. I saw a snowman on the way back and everyone in PA has gotten a real kick out of that!

    #62683
    Rod
    Participant

    I can second that. Although we were only their on Saturday it was a really good and inspirational event. I liked the format and vision for the future that Carl spoke about in the keynote address and which can hopefully come to fruition through the membership plan. Especially the thoughts about smaller regional meetings and the leverage possibilities available through organization. I am anxious to hear how that meeting went as we were unable to participate on Sunday.
    As far as the weather was concerned my good wife reminds me on occasion that when living in Vermont if you let the weather interfere with your plans you won’t end up doing anything at all.
    Anyway it was good in a different way as seems to be the case each year. Let’s find a way to keep it up, make it solvent and grow and encourage Carl and Lisa in the process. Thanks to all the teachers and volunteers who did their thing to make the event a success.

    #62686
    Mark Cowdrey
    Participant

    If anyone had told me Friday morning when I was driving up 89 in the pouring rain what a great weekend I was about to have, I probably would have given them one of those “Dad looks” that said “If you don’t shut up your life is in danger”.
    But, of course, it was a great weekend as it always is. Good workshops, good food (an omelet station no less!), good exchange of ideas, good to see old friends and new, good to meet folks that I have exchanged info with through DAP.net; all in the context of people working their animals…

    Just got off the phone w/ John Plowden & he concurs it was a great weekend. Friday in the rain gave us core folks and the truly interested a good opportunity to network & closely examine different projects we are each working on. Maybe not the original plan, but a very worthwhile day regardless. Lynn brought out good detailed info with humor & probing questions. I believe that one of the strengths of our group is being able to work in a given situation, apply our shared knowledge, mutual support and overall flexibility to achieve a successful outcome.

    Thanks to all who worked so hard to bring it off. A special thanks to Donn for stepping up and being “ringmaster” at the obstacle course this morning.

    And of course, for the double fence post on which our gate swings, Carl & Lisa, words do not do justice for all you have done. Thank you.

    See you all again for another “freakin’ groovy” time.

    Best,

    Mark

    #62693
    Tim Harrigan
    Participant

    I could see before I went how much work and planning had gone into the event so although I was certainly impressed I was not surprised to see how nicely everything came together, including plan B on Friday. I was very pleased to see how excellent the presentations/workshops were and I really had underestimated how extensive and involved the community of interest was up in that part of the country. It was most gratifying to see such a large number of young folks with such passion and sense of purpose striving to place meaningful work with draft animals at their center. What a nice trip.

    #62690
    near horse
    Participant

    I drove five days and many miles to be at Tunbridge and was questioning the sanity of it but after experiencing the event, I would do it again in a heart beat. This draft animal power community we’re all part of is incredible – great people who treated me like they’d known me forever. I’m awed and inspired by all of you – for your knowledge, surely – but as much for who you are as people. You give me hope and I thank you for that!

    We, as a community, need to keep this “thing” going. DAPNET, Tunbridge, etc require A LOT of work and Carl and Lisa have given it their all – with great success. THANK YOU!! I, for one, am committed to helping this “thing” to continue and maybe even grow. 😮

    Side note: Although Carl “seems” to be the low tech guy – hand milking etc – I KNOW he has mastered human cloning. There HAVE to be 2 Carls at Earthwise Farm to do what he does and I think I saw them together just for a moment over by the ox barns at Tunbridge:rolleyes:

    As Mark put it – it was freakin’ groovy.

    #62689
    Donn Hewes
    Keymaster

    Thanks Mark, I had a lot of fun too! By the end of the day on Saturday I was feeling a little worn out and wondering if we would rally for an obstacle course. Jason Glick, John Plowden and his crew, and Ben Johnson, and many others were ready to play on Sunday morning and that was great. I have been to a fair number of conferences and field days, and this is the only event I can think of where every year I have added to the list of folks I call friends, and doubly the relationships I started in Tunbridge have all gotten richer with each year.

    Special thanks to all the folks who worked to make the teamster breakfast, coffee, and all the meals great; and not just because I was hungry and some else fed me (which I greatly appreciate), but because for me a lot of the fun is sitting down with folks and visiting at “the tent”

    Great job, Carl and Lisa, and everyone.

    #62680
    Carl Russell
    Moderator

    I’m finally back, but yet to unpack completely. Truck is running like it sucked a rod on the final approach up the hill to our house. Oh well at least I won’t have to haul anything for a few weeks.

    Anyway, thanks to all of you who volunteered, presented, and generally help to make this such a good event. I really like Mark’s comments yesterday describing NEAPFD as a professional conference. It really explains a lot about the attendance levels. Every year there are about the same amount of people, all of whom are very serious and focused on the content that is available. We know that this crowd is not made of money, and at the urging of several folks to try to make it affordable to attract more people, we have kept the gates fees lower than they actually should be.

    When I think of this as a professional conference, which has always been the emphasis, and take into consideration that we get about the same number of serious attendees every year, and not many off the street, I wonder if those who have attended would pay $50/day. If we had been collecting $50/person/day then we would be having a completely different conversation about the future of this event and the network that it has highlighted.

    All-in-all I am extremely proud to have been involved with all of you to create the event we just experienced last weekend. The weather was a challenge, but everyone was there to get the most out of it. It was so inspiring for me to be a part of a group of people who thrive on overcoming challenges by thinking on their feet with fierce determination to enjoy themselves and relationships with those around them. Thank you so much for that, all of you.

    As far as Sunday, we are very sorry that we had the agenda that we did, because the obstacle course was really enjoyable. It would have been extra-frickin’ groovy to just continue all day. I really believe in having the serious exchange NEAPFD is know for, not to say there wasn’t serious exchange at the OC, but it would be very fun to have a whole day dedicated to exercises like that, scoot loads, distance pulls etc. I’d travel 5 hours in any direction from here with my horses to do that. I finally got a chance to go through at 6 pm when I skidded the logs back to behind the horse barns. Thanks Donn, Jason, John and others who got that started, I really wish we didn’t have to cut that short.

    Now for sleep, staying on the farm for a few weeks, working not only the horses, but the under-worked steers, getting some soil turned, garlic planted, wood out, and then some livestock slaughtered before snow-fall.

    I love you folks, Carl

    #62691
    near horse
    Participant

    @Carl Russell 21448 wrote:

    …. I’d travel 5 hours in any direction from here with my horses to do that….I love you folks, Carl

    Only five hours? It should be more than that if you really love us;)

    Honestly Carl, the feeling is mutual!

    #62696
    mitchmaine
    Participant

    hey carl, you sure have a funny way of resting up. working your animals, planting, plowing, chopping wood, and butchering pigs. but thanks for all you and lisa did when you weren’t resting and working on that fair. its a wonderful thing.

    thanks again, mitch and penny

    #62685
    Howie
    Participant

    We’re back home in PA and really enjoyed a fantastic outing.
    We met so many of our old friends and made some new ones.
    We want to thank Carl and Lisa for the tremendous amount of work that
    they put out for this. Unbelievable what they have done with this!
    There was so much to learn from so many knowledgeable people, good conversations, great food and plenty of it.
    Just wish Carl could get friendlier with the weatherman so we could have nicer weather.
    Thanks again Carl and Lisa and all your helpers for putting so much of yourselves into this.
    Howie and Betty

    #62687
    Vicki
    Participant

    What a great event Saturday! I’m sorry I had to miss Friday and Sunday. I wish I had formally met Carl and more of you other familiar names here. I’m impressed with the variety of topics and activities, the many presenters, the volunteers and sponsors, the level of organization and participation. There simply weren’t enough hours to see and do all we would have liked. I would have loved the obstacle course.

    Mark and I greatly enjoyed visiting with old friends and meeting some of you! The food was great, and the scenery too.

    Thank you to everyone who helped make it happen, especially Carl and Lisa.
    Vicki

    #62688
    Patrick
    Participant

    @Carl Russell 21448 wrote:

    I’m finally back, but yet to unpack completely. Truck is running like it sucked a rod on the final approach up the hill to our house. Oh well at least I won’t have to haul anything for a few weeks.

    Anyway, thanks to all of you who volunteered, presented, and generally help to make this such a good event. I really like Mark’s comments yesterday describing NEAPFD as a professional conference. It really explains a lot about the attendance levels. Every year there are about the same amount of people, all of whom are very serious and focused on the content that is available. We know that this crowd is not made of money, and at the urging of several folks to try to make it affordable to attract more people, we have kept the gates fees lower than they actually should be.

    When I think of this as a professional conference, which has always been the emphasis, and take into consideration that we get about the same number of serious attendees every year, and not many off the street, I wonder if those who have attended would pay $50/day. If we had been collecting $50/person/day then we would be having a completely different conversation about the future of this event and the network that it has highlighted.

    All-in-all I am extremely proud to have been involved with all of you to create the event we just experienced last weekend. The weather was a challenge, but everyone was there to get the most out of it. It was so inspiring for me to be a part of a group of people who thrive on overcoming challenges by thinking on their feet with fierce determination to enjoy themselves and relationships with those around them. Thank you so much for that, all of you.

    As far as Sunday, we are very sorry that we had the agenda that we did, because the obstacle course was really enjoyable. It would have been extra-frickin’ groovy to just continue all day. I really believe in having the serious exchange NEAPFD is know for, not to say there wasn’t serious exchange at the OC, but it would be very fun to have a whole day dedicated to exercises like that, scoot loads, distance pulls etc. I’d travel 5 hours in any direction from here with my horses to do that. I finally got a chance to go through at 6 pm when I skidded the logs back to behind the horse barns. Thanks Donn, Jason, John and others who got that started, I really wish we didn’t have to cut that short.

    Now for sleep, staying on the farm for a few weeks, working not only the horses, but the under-worked steers, getting some soil turned, garlic planted, wood out, and then some livestock slaughtered before snow-fall.

    I love you folks, Carl

    I had a great time, and learned a lot, as I did last year. I don’t mean to be overly critical, and I do know how much work goes into putting on such an event, but if you were going to be charging upwards of $50, I would expect a few things to be done differently if I were to pay that price. I understand that many of the speakers are not professional conference presenters, and some of the charm of the field days lies in the style that they do offer. Still, a little bit more organization in some areas would make for a more equitable experience for all, IMO. For example, at one discussion, the presenters did not start on time, far from it. There were over a dozen attendees present, yet the presenters were holding out, hoping for more, very few which ever materialized. The dozen of us paid our gate fees, and were there on time. Why were we punished waiting for those who didn’t bother? Some better moderation in this respect would be in order if the fee were higher, IMO. Also, some of the presentations were rather limited in viewing area. For the lucky few who were able to gather closely around and see what was going on, it was great, but others in the rear could not always get in close, and they missed out on some great stuff. Here too, someone more experienced with moderating on a professional level might have been able to organize viewing arrangements to benefit all who were paying to see what was going on. The informal style of some of the presentations is great. I really love it, and it works for me for $20. If I miss out on some parts, or get slightly inconvenienced, it’s not the end of the world. For $50 I’d want a bit more for my money. JMO. I hope the feedback helps.

    #62681
    Carl Russell
    Moderator
    Patrick;21490 wrote:
    ….. For $50 I’d want a bit more for my money. JMO. I hope the feedback helps.

    Good points, thanks, Carl

    #62694
    Tim Harrigan
    Participant
    Patrick;21490 wrote:
    ….some of the presentations were rather limited in viewing area. For the lucky few who were able to gather closely around and see what was going on, it was great, but others in the rear could not always get in close, and they missed out on some great stuff….. it works for me for $20. If I miss out on some parts, or get slightly inconvenienced, it’s not the end of the world. For $50 I’d want a bit more for my money.

    There are some good points to consider here, but the reality of some of these types of demonstrations is you need to get a close look to see clearly what is going on, and space is limited. But the presentations were not rushed, and it was possible to step up and ask the presenters to repeat it. One way to capture some of the details would be to create a video of some of the demos where those types of details were important. You do not need to hire a professional videographer, you can make a pretty decent video and voice over for $250 worth of equipment and minimal skills. Consider keeping the price at $20 and make the demo videos available on DAP on a pay per view basis. $5 or $10 per demo/workshop might add up. I do not think it is particularly difficult to set something like that up.

    #62692
    dominiquer60
    Moderator

    It was my 4th NEAPFD, and I still come away from the event in awe of what just happened and that such a collection of wonderful people exist. Thank you Carl, Lisa and the many other countless people that it takes to run such an event.

    “Now for sleep, staying on the farm for a few weeks, working not only the horses, but the under-worked steers, getting some soil turned, garlic planted, wood out, and then some livestock slaughtered before snow-fall.”

    Carl, After creating such a wonderful experience for all of us, I can appreciate that it feels good going back to doing your chores, crafts, and professions with your family, and without all the extra NEAPFD tasks. Have a restful and for filling time, and give those boys some more chores, they love helping you, but I don’t have to tell you that:) It was good to see those steers out and Tuli on the lines.

    Anyone that walked away from the weekend without a smile needs their head fixed or they need to oil the hinges that open their eyes, ears and heart.

    Be well all,

    Erika

    PS an online evaluation would be great, I totally forgot to fill one out at the event.

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