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- November 2, 2010 at 7:10 pm #42086
Scott G
ParticipantDetailed thesis by a German forestry student.
Once you get past the cumbersome first section describing the statistical model & method, it is a decent read if you’re into white papers like I am.
What is often mentioned is the prevalent use of horses for “pre-skidding” aka pre-bunching trail/roadside for subsequent removal by a forwarder, etc..
This by far is the most detailed white paper I have seen on the subject. Just way too much detail about sampling methods & statistics. But hell, it’s the kid’s thesis, so what else would you expect?
Just click on the e-book when you open the link.
November 2, 2010 at 9:42 pm #63042CharlyBonifaz
MemberWhat is often mentioned is the prevalent use of horses for “pre-skidding” aka pre-bunching trail/roadside for subsequent removal by a forwarder, etc..
http://www.fuhrhalterei-stertenbrink.de/holzernte.htm#koelnerverfahren
click onto the videoDecember 7, 2010 at 3:48 am #63043PhilG
ParticipantCool Video – Horse in a box truck ? awesum! I have been trying to think of a way to get horse and saw mill transported in one shot for awhile now, i even thought of seling my woodmizer and get a Peterson to put in the back of the gooseneck behind the horses.
December 7, 2010 at 11:04 pm #63037ParticipantPhil,
Put a receiver on the back end of your GN. Towing multiples can be tricky and near impossible when it gets too tight but at at a minimum you could get the majority of the way there, drop/secure the mill, go the last bit to the job site, dump the GN & horses and go back & get the mill.
You’ve seen those Mega-RV rigs driven by tourists with blue hair towing a jeep + boat+ jet-ski behind them!
Once I get a horse-drawn forwarder that is how I’m going to handle it…
December 8, 2010 at 1:12 am #63039jen judkins
ParticipantSorry, Scott, I skipped the thesis and went right to the video:rolleyes:. I loved this vid. The quiet partnership between horse and logger is a thing of beauty! I know you guys log ‘for a living’, but I envy the trade for its harmony more than anything else.
December 8, 2010 at 2:20 am #63044ParticipantThanks Scott,
Interesting ! might have to put a lift and beef up the rear end of the goose neck a little, but that might work, it would stress the crap out of me the first couple times for sure.
I used to see some old boys with a saddle horse on there truck flatbed also with a home made lookin pen welded up to hold the horse, think that would work for a draft? you would need a pretty big ramp though.December 8, 2010 at 4:06 am #63041TaylorJohnson
ParticipantPhil my Dad and I went though down town Rochester MN at noon with 2 mules just riding in the back of the truck tied to a row bar . Now I can tell you we got some looks lol . All of out mules would ride in the back of the truck most of them with dogs if need be.
My Dad and Uncles use to haul their work horses to the woods in a big bow truck sometimes.They would back it in and out of the ditch to load and unload them. I have though many times to get some kind of rig like this to haul with there would be a lot of good ways to set it up. Some of these old uhaul trucks and the likes go for a good fair price. Taylor JohnsonDecember 8, 2010 at 11:59 pm #63038ParticipantPutting your horse in the back of your standard PU was a pretty normal way of going when I was a young kid. My Dad had stock racks for our old 3/4 T GMC that we use to haul our small mares and pack burros around in. 1 horse or 2 burros was a usual load. I can’t remember the last time I saw a horse in the back of a PU. Seemed to die out by the mid-80’s. Never heard of a single road wreck with a PU w/ stock racks as opposed to many by trailers. The major downside of hauling with a truck is that you need a decent cut bank and/or large ramp for loading/unloading. I also find it easier to turn a gooseneck around in a really tight spot as opposed to a large straight chassis. I’ll pick a gooseneck any day for hauling…
December 9, 2010 at 12:32 am #63040Anonymous
Inactivebeen hauling on 3 ton Int. for awhile now. built a box on a twelve foot bed. the front horse gets loaded, close a divider. she’s got her feed up in the loft. second horse goes up the ramp, moves it’s butt over, gets tied, off we go. ramp is a bit heavy, use 4 pulleys. put a couple 6by6 chunks under the bottom to lessen the pitch. finding a little rise, or bank is good. loaded plenty on flat ground though, just gotta be real careful of slippery conditions.
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