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- January 4, 2011 at 4:32 am #42271AnonymousInactive
I am interested in using oxen but would like a bit of in put on there uses. I have worked with horses alot of my life and have farmed briefly with them.
I have a few ? Can one person use a team of oxen like horses plowing and such or do you always need two? I guess the better would be the advantages and disadvantages?
Thanks JimJanuary 4, 2011 at 9:20 am #64498Nat(wasIxy)ParticipantI was told a few things about oxen before I started:
They are weaker
They are slower
They are stupid
They are dangerous
You can’t ride them
They have to be worked in pairs, and will only work with their mateAll of which has turned out to be complete….well, you can imagine 😉
I think a LOT of the misconceptions come from the past, when nobody cared how they were trained or harnessed, when they were smaller and fed poorly (out of necessity). They were compared with horses which were larger, harnessed well, fed well and trained sympathetically. Those that took the time to harness and train oxen right seem to have been rewarded, but these accounts seem to be largely ignored by a public in love with the horse.
Don’t know where the needing two people comes from – I work all mine alone?
So far my oxen have turned out to be as strong and fast as any horse I’ve had contact with (and I used to be very horsey, worked with them, ridden since I was a kid etc). They also learn faster, are far more sensible, more sure-footed, agile/nimble/flexible, and don’t let their fear dominate their lives as much and seem to suffer far, far less from lameness, colic etc. Mine are all trained singly, and harnessed with collars or breast pads instead of being yoked to a mate with a big piece of wood. I think this allows them to move freely, and they are faster. Could you jog any distance (comfortably) with a big chunk of wood strapped between you and another jogger?
But, if you LIKE horses, definately work with them. You’ll only get results with cattle if you like them! In comparison I find horses faffy to work with, stupid and ugly, with long naggy faces, knobbly knees and big clompy hooves. Don’t even like the smell 😀 Used to love them, but since I discovered oxen I’ve completely changed! There’s a few exceptions, but I doubt I’ll ever own a horse. Plenty of horsepeople feel the same about cows!
January 4, 2011 at 5:44 pm #64497dominiquer60ModeratorYes you can use a team of oxen without the assistance of another person. Oxen can be trained to drive with lines to a bit, halter or nose rings or they can be taught to drive from behind using voice commands and a long lashed whip (just in case). Of course driving from behind requires more work from you the teamster.
I agree with a good amount of what Ixy has to say about cattle. Most real work that is done with horses is at the walk and cattle are also good at walking. I have trained my older team to trot while I jog or bicycle with them, it comes in handy the few times that I have wanted high gear. Horses can work at faster speeds more comfortably, but I would never ask a team of oxen to such work, and frankly I don’t think I could keep up.
One downfall that I see to cattle is that they don’t take the heat as well as horses. When it is 90 and you want to accomplish some cultivating or moving hay, don’t as such from the cattle, they can not sweat, and if you ever find cattle panting it is a bad situation. Another problem that I have heard of is that cattle shod or not have a hard time in crusty/icy conditions, their dew claws and pasterns can get sliced if overly worked in these condition. I know horses can be effected by this as well, but I have heard that cattle are more prone to such problems.
On the other hand cattle are generally less flighty and can be worked lightly at a younger age. Having worked a lot with horses and some with cattle I like them both, but cattle are best for my situation and lifestyle.
Erika
January 4, 2011 at 6:51 pm #64499Nat(wasIxy)ParticipantCattle do sweat; they might not ‘froth up’ like horses when working but we clip our cattle over here when they come in to prevent them sweating, getting chilled and getting pneumonia. I have seen my simmental in ther photos there drenched in sweat when used as a teaser with a cow in heat. They also have the dewlap as a surface area/blood flow increaser in hot weather, which horses don’t have. Obviously, Bos Indicus breeds take it further and have even larger dewlaps etc. But there is that variation in horses too – like the difference between an exmoor pony and an arabian? I’d see that as a breed chocie question rather than species 😀
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