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- February 15, 2011 at 10:54 am #42448
fabian
Participanthauled out today the manure of the last week with the team. Because I’m not brave enough to try something new with a new equipment when the load is rather heavy, I did it with the Rattan bows. But it worked well and they didn’t bend (the load, 2axled waggon and manure, should weigh about 2500 lbs.)
On the way to the place where I unload the manure we had to master a slope, because I didn’t want to go through the village with the dirty tires. The team became rather quick, but I like that more than stopping at a hill.
Yet I am at an age where I can hold their speed. When I get too old for holding their speed, I will keep two old slow oxen 😉
At the place of unloading 2/3 of the team had the occasion of resting, 1/3 of the team (the real ox 😉 ) had to unload the waggon.
Hope you enjoy the pics !Wolfgang
February 15, 2011 at 4:52 pm #65705Howie
ParticipantI am so old I can’t even keep up with myself 😡 so I just get on the cart and tell the steers what I want them to do.:)
Howie
February 16, 2011 at 3:49 am #65719PhilG
ParticipantNice fotos Wolfgang,
I studied them over a bit looking for a way to have the third ox unload from the side, perhaps a tilt dump with a rope…. then, being half asleep by this time at night as usual , i realized you have the same three up as I do (soon to be a four up as my oldest son should be able to join in as soon as schools out) 🙂February 19, 2011 at 2:18 pm #65711Tim Harrigan
ParticipantWolfgang, I am curious to know why you haul manure to the other side of town to stockpile it in the field. Will you be spreading it on the field when conditions improve? Do several folks haul to that field and stockpile it there for the winter?
February 19, 2011 at 5:45 pm #65710sanhestar
ParticipantHello,
many small livestock farmers (and also larger ones) in Germany that have their stables in the middle of a village have to find a solution to pile the manure outside of the village to not upset the sensitive noses of neighbours. If you live in an old farmstead there’s often little room left, too, because the land directly enclosing on the farmstead has been sold over the years to build other houses and sometimes only the house, stables and a small yard remain.
February 19, 2011 at 7:26 pm #65708Participant@Tim Harrigan 25055 wrote:
Wolfgang, I am curious to know why you haul manure to the other side of town to stockpile it in the field. Will you be spreading it on the field when conditions improve? Do several folks haul to that field and stockpile it there for the winter?
1. town ???? we have about 220 inhabitants 🙂
2. a.) we live in the European Union where everything is ruled. If you want to stockpile it at home you have to built a plate of concrete and a catch basin for the slurry and the rain water. In the field you can stockpile it without that.
b.) because the manure is fresh it is better to stockpile it for a year that it can ripen and then bring it out in the following fall. No matter whether I have the room for stockpiling it at home, I do not want to have the manure over summer near my house, not only because of the smelling but also because of the flies. And not only because of the sensitive noses of my neighbours but also because I do not want to get attacked by million of flies in the summer.3. it is the place where a friend of mine, who keeps sheep, and I stockpile the manure. Except ours there is no more cattle in our village, only horses, horses, horses…..
Wolfgang
February 21, 2011 at 5:02 pm #65712ParticipantSeveral years ago I lived on a small dairy farm in Switzerland for about 1 year. About 20 cows. The house and barn were in town with the cropland in the surrounding area. We stored manure in a pit by the barn, but the barn was about 300 feet back from the street. There were other dairies in town, though, and some of them had 3 or 4 ft high retaining walls right at the street where they stored bedded manure. When it got to the top of the retaining wall they would just stack it neatly, like stacking bricks and build it up into a wall. So you would walk down the street right past the manure piles. I don’t remember odor or flies being a particular problem, maybe they were and I did not notice it, or I forgot about it.
In the morning and evening, I, along with the other dairy farmers would haul milk to the laiterie on carts in milk cans, probably 50 L or so. We would dump it and weigh it and then rinse out the cans in a fountain outside the laiterie in the center of town. It was cool.:cool:
February 21, 2011 at 5:28 pm #65715Nat(wasIxy)
ParticipantHow many years in ‘several’? 😉 We’ve got loads of stuff from the EU to comply with, and more all the time. They’ve just started with ‘NVZ zones’ which is causing all kinds of problems… Wish they’d all just ‘bog off’!!
February 21, 2011 at 8:15 pm #65713ParticipantMaybe this is the reason CH never joined the EU!
February 22, 2011 at 8:39 am #65716ParticipantIMO, very wise! I wish we could pull out 🙁
February 23, 2011 at 5:52 am #65718Roscoe
Participant@Ixy 25099 wrote:
How many years in ‘several’? 😉
Probably 20…
I grew up in Switzerland, and I remember that the most (mixed) farms were located in town. Nearly 30 farmers brought their milk twice a day with a cart or motorbike to the laiterie. Now, there are 3 dairy farms left, the milk get picked up at the farm, none of these farms are in town anymore. In the neighbur town was one dairy farm left, and even theiy had to shut down, because they din’t produce a whole truckload.
Time is changing, with or without EU…February 24, 2011 at 2:09 am #65714ParticipantOh yeah, I tried to forget how long ago that was. 1974.
March 23, 2011 at 9:00 pm #65706bivol
ParticipantWolfgang, beautiful photos!
do you have trouble with neighbours or horse owners?
EU may not be perfect, and we’re not looking forward to going in, but at least i think it’ll get some balkanians back in line… historically foreign rule was the only effective thing…
EU = YU = A-U
same idea, different name…
can’t wait for new “dungeon of the nations” yokes about EU…March 24, 2011 at 8:05 pm #65709Participant@bivol 25853 wrote:
Wolfgang, beautiful photos!
do you have trouble with neighbours or horse owners?
Neither with neighbours, nor with horse owners.
But I do not want get trouble with the neigbours. In the past EVERYONE had cattle here. And everyone’s cows defecated (?) on the road when going to the pasture or working them. The interests of the citizens were similar. Now I’m the only cattle breeder here and I understand the people that they don’t like the manure or the dirt in front of their houses. So I try to avoid this.
mentioned horses and the horse owners:
I never had a relationship to horses, I’m cow foolish.
Therefore I regret that there is no other cattle in the village.
The horse owners are a class for its own. They all have the , as I call it, “horse owner desease”:
They begin with two horses and over the time they have 10 horses arround their homes. And that while living from public welfare….:mad:Wolfgang
March 24, 2011 at 8:38 pm #65720 - AuthorPosts
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