logging with ox and fun with cows.

@bivol 28471 wrote:

Wolfgang, how are other people excepting these yokes? are they happy?

The oxlogger says that the ox pulls more with the yoke than with the three-pad-collar

@bivol 28471 wrote:

is there more interested people?

There are not many oxen here around

@bivol 28471 wrote:

is that hornless Rotvieh cattle, or Limousine?

The oxen are Limousin/Red Holstein crosses

@bivol 28471 wrote:

waah, too many questions from two pictures!

There are THREE pictures !

@bivol 28471 wrote:

about coming to Germany this summer: unfortunatelly i wont be able to visit you nor Elke…:(
some unexpected things happened in family, and i had to give the money i saved. i tried to send you a PM, but i think it failed, so i am telling you (and you too, Elke) in this way. i’m sorry for the inconvenience and for telling you this late!

That’s no problem.

@CB

@CharlyBonifaz 28472 wrote:

pretty well, speaking for my own self; he IS the best American neck yoke maker this side of the pond…..:cool:

you can not judge this because you don’t have a yoke of my “production”

@bivol 28503 wrote:

so, it’s official now 0.0… i remember reading once on this forum that oxen can pull more with American neck yoke than with with 3-pad collar, i was a bit skeptical, but now i guess it places the neck yoke on #1 as best design (though i doubt Rolf Minhorst will agree).:D

Dr. Minhorst is in high grade convinced of the 3-pad-collar that he does not see (does not want to see ? ) its shortfalls and the advantages of other hitching systems.
I agree with Drew Conroy who says that EVERY system has its advantages and disadvantages.
I saw only few pics with bovines in 3pc which did Dr. Minhorst accept complete (too small, too deep hitchpoint, too high hitchpoint, too big aso.) so that I came to the result that the 3pc is only a hitching system for real experts. The injuries a 3pc can cause, are immense. So (and because it is the local hitching system) I became a proponent of the forehead yoke. It is no problem for even the foolishst oxdrover to use it on cattle without causing injuries.
But the simplicity of hitching led me to the american neckyoke. One grip and the team is hitched to a cart, waggon aso, one second grip and the team is unhitched. In the wood you have only to use one chain or one pole, not 4 chains, 2 singletrees and one evener when using a harness system.
BUT : the neckyoke ALSO needs much know how about the right fit if you don’t want cause injuries on your cattle. THAT’s for my opinion one of the greatest shortfalls of the neck yoke. I think that the number of injuries you can cause with a neck yoke and the number of injuries you can cause with a 3pc are more or less similar.
Assumed the teamster HAS the know how about the right fit and he HAS hard work for his oxen, then he should use the system which captures the power of oxen best. And referred to the statement of the oxlogger in the pics this is the neckyoke. About the forehead yoke he can’t say anything, because he can’t use it: his oxen are dehorned. I like horned oxen more but dehorning his oxen makes sense because he logs in difficult terrain and he wants to spare his oxen a further obstacle in the tight wood.

Wolfgang