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- October 15, 2011 at 10:40 am #43122Ethan TapperParticipant
I just started working with 4 shire geldings, all of them between 18-3 and 19 hands. I’ve noticed, particularly when I’m driving on the ground, that it’s hard to keep even pressure on their mouths (and even harder to see where I’m going). I’m going to spend some time with the team on the ground pulling wood this winter and so wondered if anyone had experience working with giant horses and could offer up some advice. Any big horse info would be appreciated, as it looks like I’m going to spend a bunch of time with these boys, and I foresee their height being something it’s going to take some getting used to.
Thanks, Ethan
October 15, 2011 at 12:08 pm #69620jacParticipantHi Ethan.. We run Clydes at presant… You might find if you make up longer coupling lines and punch coresponding new holes furher up on the long line so you still have that 4 to 7 inch difference between the two lines. I dont do a lot of ground driving but did notice this problem any time I did.. good luck..
JohnOctober 15, 2011 at 9:44 pm #69616Donn HewesKeymasterYou could try adding drop rings to your harness. By adding rings lower on the side of the hames you will find less of an upward pull on the horses mouths and more of a lateral pull. The lateral pull is the signal we want to send to steer horses. Use a large ring (like from an old bit) and a small lock link to add the ring were the harness back straps are coming off. You may need to decrease the off set between your lines to keep the horses spaced right. While the drop ring is a subtle change for most teams, it would work really well for tall horses. All my horses and mules work with these rings. You can look at my web album to find a picture. The pictures call face net show it well. Donn
October 16, 2011 at 11:35 am #69618jen judkinsParticipantEthan, I’ve taught myself to work off to one side or another ground driving. It does take some practice to keep even line pressure, but with a seasoned, well trained team, I think its your best option in regard to seeing what’s ahead of you. I once tried to drive my team over a trash can, because I couldn’t see it…..they were not amused. Its tougher in the woods. I tend to stop periodically, step off the trail and reconnoiter the path ahead alttle bit at a time. My team is 18 hands plus.
October 16, 2011 at 6:13 pm #69619near horseParticipantWow Jen – reconnoiter?! I’m impressed :o. I too have horses tall enough to generate a solar eclipse and do as Jen mentions but also drop back further behind the team to see ahead once in awhile. Too close will block your view in front pretty easily.
October 17, 2011 at 12:02 am #69621Ethan TapperParticipantAll those suggestions sound good.
Are spacers a good idea/not a good idea with these big boys? The woman I work for uses spacers all the time and I can’t tell if its helping the problem or making it worse.
What specifically am I looking for when adjusting the offset on the lines? Is there a rule of thumb or should I just see what feels right.
Donn, that drop ring idea sounds interesting. How do I see those pictures?
Thanks for taking the time, Ethan
October 17, 2011 at 11:39 am #69615Does’ LeapParticipantHi Ethan:
I, like Donn, am a big fan of drop rings. I use what I call “double snaps” – preferably stainless steel – that I have clips on both ends. These are common hardware items but they tend to be nickle-plated. One of the double snap snaps on your hame ring the other snap has a 2.5″ ring in it. My lines pass through this ring, dropping the lines 6″ or so (see the horse on left).
Others may have more mathematical approaches on adjusting lines. Here’s mine whenever I mess with the lines as with the case in the picture above where I am driving 2 horses of vastly different sizes. I have the horses under load with moderate line pressure. Their heads should be straight ahead as they pull. If one or both have their heads out (as in away from the other horse), I adjust my cross-checks back. The opposite if they are driving with their heads in. Theoretically both cross checks should be adjusted the same.
George
October 17, 2011 at 2:18 pm #69617Donn HewesKeymasterhi Ethan, There is a link right in my post “web album” but it is a little hard to see. Perhaps our web guy can make them easier to see?
*****Here’s the link to Donn’s web album:
http://picasaweb.google.com/mulemandonnOctober 17, 2011 at 10:41 pm #69622Ethan TapperParticipantI see it now, Donn. Thanks for that. Good looking horses, too.
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