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    karl t pfister
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    This year in Vermont beginning with Irene it seems to be significantly different , the hurricane ,the lack of snow ,the early early loss of snow . It all has added up to an incredible hay year . I never before have felt like I will miss harvesting 1/4 to 1/3 of our crop in the pre-bud , “seed in the boot stage “, but here it is the 2/nd of June with what looks like a week of rainy overcast weather forecast and I feel like I’ll end up watching the most amazing hay go by.

    I’m not depressed about it really ,I do have faith that we will get enough quality hay that all the stock will survive the
    winter as usual. It is more about as Does Leap did this year, “off to a good start ” Is every year different ?

    #69706
    J-L
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    Crazy out here in Wyoming this year too Karl. Last year we had one of the biggest snowpacks on record, water ran high until August, and we had a hell of a time getting ground dry enough to hay. Fast forward to this year and we had a tiny snowpack, and have had no moisture to speak of for over 60 days (we’re talking less than 10% of normal) and have severe drought.
    We also had a very warm March and April, but it was followed by a cool May so not much growth now.
    I’m hoping for a little better than half a hay crop and am starting to cull cattle out…long time ’til fall.

    #69713
    mitchmaine
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    Every day is different, karl. Eighty degrees in march here, and now we have the woodstove going, 2nd of june. Probably no different than fifty years ago, except that there don’t seem to be patterns, and that’s what makes it so unpredictable. Even nooa can’t get it right for my lat. And long. “the” weathermen trying to predict weather for my backyard and they can’t do it. When I was a kid, if the weather came around northwest, you had cool dry settled weather for a week at least, and when you saw cirrus (my dad called them serious) clouds, or you could hear the train whistle up town, it meant you had two days to clean up for rain. Now, northwest wind lasts two days tops, and it swings southwest and chances of showers each day. That’s hard to predict, even if weather is your business. We have four days of scattered showers predicted with a possibility of six inches of rain (?????????????????) what does that mean? Good luck with your haymaking. mitch

    #69712
    mink
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    same here mitch …48 degrees and rain looks like the wood stove has another week at best

    #69705
    Mark Cowdrey
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    I wondered if anyone else fired up their wood stove tonight. Feels good. Over 2.5″ here today.
    Mark

    #69714
    mitchmaine
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    she opened up last night. five and a quarter inches so far in the guage sinse saturday around ten am. a half inch more than the month of may. the weather man thinks it will rain until tuesday, and i am worried he might be correct this time. pigs aren’t happy, but i can move them. all else seems ok except the thousand feet of potatoes i covered up friday. yuck.

    #69711
    karl t pfister
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    wow you really got hammered,Mitch . Good record keeping ,so far are months averaging normal ? and I”ll bet the quarter will be normal too .BUT it’s not normal to get 3/4 of the months rainfall in one event . We got just under 2″ s for the storm and now it’s blue sky and great looking till this PM when it all looks to start again . It’s wild wild weather at least for pigs , potatoes and people not to mention pfarmers !

    #69707
    Jim Ostergard
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    I didn’t check the rain gage on the way to the barn this morning Mitch. Don’t think the rain was quite so heavy here a bit back from the shore but it sure was steady all night. We started a fire yesterday afternoon and kept it going most of the night. I went out yesterday morning and captured a swarm of bees in a neighbors garden. Easy job as it was just above 50 and they were tightly clustered only 8′ up in an apple tree. Don’t think they would have made out so well if I hadn’t hived ’em with comb already drawn in one of my top bar hives. 50 degrees right now with a pretty good sou’east breeze. Being on the south side of the ridge the water all ends up and the bottom of my small holding and it not a pretty place when the horses finish with it. Guess I will spend the day in the barn, going to build some shaves for the Scandinavian harness. Been communicating with Simon in the Uk about the various rigging they use so am pretty excited to get moving on this.

    #69709
    Michel Boulay
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    Last couple of days sunny but not that warm. Not that much rain a sprinkle here and there. Risk of frost last two nights but don’t seem to have any. For the next few days its 40% and some 60% of precip. Probably will have to fire up the stove again with overcast skies no choice gets pretty chilly inside. Holding up on planting the garden not warm enough for certain veggies. Got the potatoes and some lettuce, spinash, onions, peas in. Some asparagus are sprouting have an acre+ of oats that’s coming up undersown 80-20 timothy and clover. Keep us posted on that scandinavian harness Jim, I’m curious about how your going to do with all that. Mike

    #69704
    Carl Russell
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    Stove’s been burning for a few days…… have to heat the water anyway because there’s no sun, but of course it feels good. Out yesterday and it felt more uncomfortable than during winter…. chilled to the bone.

    It certainly has gotten to where we can’t rely on those old patterns we grew up with. I have been beating my head against old patterns for several years now, and just decided to try to be more flexible.

    This year I took advantage of the early dry warmth and got the garden ready in April…. usually couldn’t get on it until mid May. This year I have taters up a foot and have already hilled them twice. I keep wincing because I still have ingrained in my essence that June 10th final frost date…… but we’re forging ahead.

    I also had a heavy early hay crop present itself….. I just could not bring myself to cut hay in MAY (?). I knew I was going to cut hay this year, but my equipment wasn’t ready, and I have a hard enough time drying hay in June….. so I just brush-hogged it back into the soil. It’s coming back strong, and I will probably get a good crop nearer the end of June…..

    Lousy weather for pigs though. Our sows farrowed last week….. 85 degrees in May???? Way too hot for a farrowing sow…… one got exhausted and could finish, I had to work for fifteen minutes with my fingertips, arm ALL THE WAY inside her, tickling the hind feet of a dead piglet until it finally moved close enough to get ahold of it, then it took another 20 minutes to get it out of her……. and then I finally had to just put her out of her misery. Then 2 days later it’s 50 degrees and raining and piglets are shivering….. we have four orphans and runts in the house, but six good sound piggies running with the remaining mom. 25 piglets inside, 18 came out alive, 10 remain……….

    Thinking about raising ducks…….:p

    Carl

    #69715
    mitchmaine
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    seven inches of rain as of tonight with more in the next few days. what the hey? sorry about you pigs carl, mine are in a swamp too. threw in a bale of straw and they seem happy enough. little gullys cut through a corner of the oats, peas and onions look ok. can’t say when we can get back on the ground.
    like you say about patterns, it makes it hard to plan your summer without some idea of whats ahead for weather.
    hurricanes like irene can effect you for years, so you shouldn’t have one every summer.

    #69708
    Jim Ostergard
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    Mitch, I kept watching the weather radar yesterday and that stuff just sat over you and bit over here. We have 3.5 inches this morning. Don’t want to turn the guys out at it is deep muck and running water everywhere. No work either and I sure am not getting much time in the woods this month. Starting to pinch. When I was on the boats and living on the shore I lived in a small fishing shack that was just at the high tide line. When we would get SE gales I would put a dory in the back yard with a line to the house leading around a tree a bit up ground. Never had to use it but often we had a couple of feet of water in the door yard. Figured I would never have to think about that up here on the ridge.

    #69710
    Michel Boulay
    Participant

    Wow you guys got a lot of rain. That system just went by us, some precip. next couple of days. I’ve got some low line areas and I haven’t seen and can’t remember these areas dried up so early like they are now. I hope for a little heat to get thing dried up for you guys. Sorry about your lost Carl. Last couple of years are hard to figure some sort of pattern in that weather. Always have to be ready for the unexpected and even then. Dog had a raccoon hung up a tree next to the house last week had to get rid of that never know with the chicken coop close. Fun to hear of all the chalenges we have in our everyday work. Have a good week you all.

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