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- February 12, 2012 at 12:57 am #43500njfarmerParticipant
I have a question about blinders. I understand there are three types: Round, Square, and Pigeon Wing. Is it just a matter of prefrence as to which type you use are are they for different things? I am looking at ordering a bridle from Peach Lane Harness Shop and there is no difference in price between the three, so that is not an issue. Ideally I think I would like to work her without blinders if possible. Nothing seems to spook her, but I guess it would be easier for her to focus with blinders? Thanks for your help.
BrianFebruary 12, 2012 at 2:38 am #720741ecofarmerParticipantI don’t know the answer to your question, but I just logged on to ask a question about blinders, which relates to part of yours. So I guess I’ll tag it on here. I used to drive ponies single in open bridles (without blinders) before I even knew I “should” have been using blinders. Now I’d like to convert my team, which is used to blinders, to open bridles but I’m not sure how much re-training is involved. Does anyone drive that way? How much retraining did you do? My ponies are new to me and haven’t been worked in a year. Therefore, I’m reviewing with them anyway and thinking that this might be a good time to switch bridles. On the other hand, maybe we should get used to the program before making a change. Any thoughts? Also, anyone on here drive bitless? I’ve been checking out this bitless bridle: http://www.nurturalhorse.com/ My ponies absolutely detest their (snaffle) bridles. I’m generally into doing things as “natural” and minimalist as possible, so these things appeal to me. Thanks!
February 12, 2012 at 3:25 am #72065Gabe AyersKeymasterI think my bridles both have what are called square blinders. I have always run my horses with them, and I find them to be helpful. Not so much for more focus on the part of the horses as much as for some protection for their eyes when we are working in tight trees. John Plowden has worked one of his horses without them with some success, so it might be worth checking with him for more details on this question.
-BradFebruary 12, 2012 at 3:48 am #72069john plowdenParticipantI run pigeon wing and square no difference other than style – I do have a gelding that goes blinderless – he is a very steady horse and we have a strong trust – He likes to see what is going on and I’m comfortable letting him – I will say that a sudden change from seeing some to all may take getting used to –
I had a mare rub her bridle and break it on a job a long way from home and the only spare in the trailer was a riding bridle – she went from blinders to none in ten minutes – It was interesting trying to keep her focused and relaxed – she could see it all and I think it was too much – after a day working with it she had a better understanding and realized that not everything was going to bite her –
JohnFebruary 12, 2012 at 4:12 am #72073AnonymousInactiveI know some people feel very strongly one way or the other about wether to use blinders or not. I’m not an expert on this subject either. What I’v found is some horses work better with and some with out. The pair I’m using now Kim works much better in a open bridle she is more confident when backing up on uneven ground, likes to see what I’m doing so she can be ready to respond and is totaly unfased by any thing that is dragging behind her. Bell her mate on the other hand is much happier not to see me or any thing behind her it stresses her out to the point she will run away. I would say 50% of the horses I’v owned worked better in a open bridle. I would perfer if all of them were in open bridles in the woods. For the same reasons Kim likes a open bridle.
As fara blinder styles are concerned I think its more to do with the taste of the teamster than how the blinder performs. The pigon wing style dose seem to block a little mor vision.
Tristan
February 12, 2012 at 12:50 pm #72071jen judkinsParticipantI agree with Tristan and John. I think some horses do better with blinders and some without. It takes skill on the teamsters part to read the situation and the horse, and THAT in my mind is the important piece in regard to sorting out how to do it. I also think some horses do better in blinders for some activities and better without for others. My Reno goes in in an open bridle for just about everything as a single. I have had to put him in blinders as a team, mostly to keep him focused. In an open bridle he hassles his teammate mercilessly. His teammate, on the other hand, does not do well in an open bridle. He just comes unglued when the object behind him moves, and he can see it. I think I could get him past that, but why bother when he is absolutely perfect with blinders on….steady as they come.
So I think when considering taking horses out of blinders, you should consider ‘why’ you want to change this? If you are not having trouble with your team, I would have to have a good reason to want to change that. I took Reno out of blinders because he was unconfident working alone and seeing me seemed to help him with that. I can see that I was right, given his confidence with a teammate now. Anyway, Its nice to have an idea of how your horse or team would do without blinders in case you have to do it, as John pointed out, but whether to put the effort into going from blinders to open, is a personal preference for the most part, and will depend on the horse and situation.
February 12, 2012 at 1:10 pm #72070Donn HewesKeymasterHi all, I work two horses and one mule with out blinders now, I am currently working two horses in blinders. I definitely prefer working the animals without, but I also find some animals either can’t or clearly work better with blinders. My horses with out blinders have run Balers, haybines, and even a combine. They are very comfortable with what is behind them. I think changing a horse can be simple or it can be tricky and possibly dangerous. One needs start with very simple and safe things behind the animal to see how they respond.
As far as bits go, I have never had the same curiosity about going with out bits. I would find a bit that the animal is comfortable with.
February 12, 2012 at 3:44 pm #72066Carl RussellModeratorThere is a commonn misconception that horses, or any animal for that matter, focus on the details of a situation. It makes no difference to the horse if there are blinders or not. What they care about is whether or not you are giving them adequate guidance given the situation.
If their sight is limited, and that affects the situation, then how are YOU going to deal with that? Sure remove the blinder, but that won’t improve your leadership, it just removes a physical barrier allowing the horse to arrive at its own comfort zone….. without your guidance.
It also just perpetuates your focus on material aspects of the situation, as if they actually matter. If instead you focus on effective leadership in guiding your animals, it shouldn’t matter if they are blind, blindered, or under attack from a saber toothed tiger. The pieces of your harness, bridle, bit, etc., are tools you use to accomplish your task, while they facilitate your communication, don’t let them distract you from actually improving communication.
Carl
February 12, 2012 at 4:03 pm #72068BarwParticipantI run my team of mules with pigeon blinders and my Suffolk
team with out blinders.I think blinders in heavy bush give
some degree of protection.February 12, 2012 at 4:21 pm #72067Michael ColbyParticipantI really like the pigeon blinders because they don’t seem to crowd the eyes as much.
February 13, 2012 at 5:41 am #72072MacParticipantPigeon wings are for mules. Rounds or square for horses. I personally use rounded ones on my team. Square looks too odd to me.
Mac
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