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- July 27, 2012 at 3:55 pm #43967Peace of Earth FarmParticipant
Does anyone know of any designs of a winter shelter for an ox that would be built on sleds so he could move around? We have a single ox and was planning on a 3 sided structure for his winter housing. We would like it to be mobile so we can have him in a different space each winter. We would also like to use this same structure in the summer and fall to cure garlic, onions, and winter squash, so it doesn’t just sit there idle all summer. Thanks, Jeffrey
July 30, 2012 at 10:44 pm #74589fogishParticipanthttp://abe.psu.edu/extension/idea-plans/sheep/ip-725-24/view The very last page has a portable shelter.
http://www.ag.ndsu.edu/extension-aben/buildingplans/beef Then perform a search for the word shelter on the page, there are several that are on skids.
http://bioengr.ag.utk.edu/Extension/ExtPubs/PlanList97.htmThere you go, have fun and I hope you find something that works. I don’t think it’s safe using an animal shelter for food purposes, but that’s the most I will say about that.
July 31, 2012 at 4:13 pm #74588Andy CarsonModeratorThere are several designs to chose from and your application will differ from others, but I think it would be useful to list the features that I have found to be important in shelter design/construction. This might give you some way to determine what is important for you.
1. Ventilation. I have been much happier with shelters that have big open sides that allow moist foul air out and cool clean air in. I like a whole open side, at least, not just an open door or window.
2. Drainage. Make sure to locate shelter on a piece of ground with good drainage. Wet manure, urine, and trampling will turn a moderately drained area into a swamp.
3. Access to outside. Cattle (or at least my cattle) tend to “veg out” in the winter, concentrating manure, mess, etc. Anything that can be done to “get the boys to play outside” makes your life easier.
4. Reinforcement around “rub points” and in feeding areas. 2×4’s are small sticks to a big ox. Thick wood and bolts are good in these areas, and concrete embedded posts are golden. They are especially strong when pushing to get to food, so think about how you are going to store hay and grain in your system. I made the mistake of storing extra hay next to my feed bunk out of the reach of my oxen (but ALMOST within reach). I am rebuilding the feed area this year.
5. Proximity to feed, hay, water, house. Hauling water gets old and cattle drink a lot. You will not relish a long trips with buckets in winter. Same goes for the hay and feed. Heated water troughs that can be filled periodically with a hose are very very nice. A location next to the house where you can throw on some boots and feed in your PJ’s without getting all “garb’ed up” in the middle of winter is also very nice. This stuff sounds like no big deal in the middle of summer, but in winter these “little” inconveniences really add up.
Overall, I think this portable shelter is a good idea in theory, but am a little concerned about the practicality of it especially in cold climates in winter. Once these skids freeze to the muddy urine soaked ground, i bet it’s going to be a real bear to move the shelter until spring, so I would be very careful about picking a spot with great drainage. On my place, there aren’t really tons of places where I could locate a shelter that have good drainage and are also pretty close to my house, hay shed, etc. If it only one or two places, you are not really getting the true advantage out of the rotation system. If the shelter is fixed, you could make the shelter so much more robust and incorporate many features that would be nice to have (much more robust design, feed storage, electricity, etc). Perhaps it would be a good compromise to keep the shelter fixed and feed in rotated areas, which would distribute the damage. Just throwing out ideas. Again, I think this is an excellent concept in theory, but I am not sure about how practical it is.
July 31, 2012 at 8:36 pm #74591Peace of Earth FarmParticipantThanks for the links to those plans. I didn’t think about the cross contamination issue. Maybe our hay storage pole barn that we need to build could be used for veggie curing and and hay storage as well. Maybe it could have a third function as long as it doesn’t involve bodily fluids.
July 31, 2012 at 8:49 pm #74592Peace of Earth FarmParticipantThanks for the tips Andy! We intended to make a 3 sided structure without a floor. We probably wouldn’t move it until thaw, but we want to be able to rotate it once a year around our greenhouses. Our laying hen flock stays in one of our unheated greenhouses all winter, so we will be going out there twice a day. We don’t have electricity out there, so we need to figure out a frost free trough. Maybe a passive solar one? He will be getting out a fair amount this winter. We want to use him for logging and snow moving, so he shouldn’t get too idle. We will think about a permanent structure and rotate his paddocks. Do you all think if we didn’t electrify his fence in the winter that he would test it? It seems like you should have the fence electrified. We would have to invest in a solar charger or possibly run a distance of insulated wire from a plug in charger.
August 2, 2012 at 4:04 pm #74590fogishParticipantI can’t guarantee he will test it but I would plan on him testing it. I have a couple horses that regularly test the hot fence and one that I can’t use it on because he goes through it. My neighbor had 3 cows in his field so he surrounded his trees with “false” hotwire and the perimeter with live hotwire. The cows ended up pushing through the false hotwire around the trees and he lost the smallest one.
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