Stacking Bales off the Baler

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  • #80393
    Does’ Leap
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    We ended up baling a little shy of 600 bales over two days during this last haying stretch. With just two of us and some help from our kids, it made for a couple of long days with all of the other farm work. I am looking for ways to make our operation more efficient. We currently drop bales on the field and pick them up off the ground with the horses. I used a bale buncher which helped, but didn’t get it going during this last batch.

    How many of you stack off the baler. Donn, I know you do. Any chance you can take some pictures of the chute coming off your baler. How do you think this system would work on hilly land? Any drawbacks to this system?

    Thanks.

    George

    #80394
    mink
    Participant

    i stack my hay off the baler but i use a tractor so i guess i cant answer your question . but with the tractor and one person on the wagon it goes slick.my baler has chains on both sides of the chute to raise it to clear your wagon bed.

    #80420
    meleon
    Participant

    When I was a kid I used to help a neighbor with his hay after I finished work on another farm. We would load his two wagons right off the baler, than we would hook up a sled to the baler’s draw bar. The sled would hold 8 or 9 bales stacked by two’s. when you had that loaded, you could push on a sweet spot on the stack and that would the cause stack to dump. (but remained stacked). he called it stooking the hay. I hated it because it meant you had to handle every bale two extra times compared to working directly off the wagon. once to stook it and another time to load wagon. I wish I could get pictures of the thing. the mechanics where neat and simple.
    Doubt my description has any value, but your question brought back memories.
    Meleon

    #80431
    mitchmaine
    Participant

    we had a rig similar to yours meleon. it was a stoneboat with 12′ long planks and a 4″ gap in the center running lengthwise showing the ground. it dragged along behind the baler and we stacked a dozen to 16 bales on it. when the time came we drove a bar into the ground in the slot in front of the bales and stripped the bales off into the field. it was some improvement to picking up singles, but doesn’t compare to loading wagons off the baler. which doesn’t compare to a kicker, which doesn’t compare to round baling……………who knows whats next?

    #80437
    Donn Hewes
    Keymaster

    I would disagree slightly with you Mitch. Round balers where made for big tractors, and you have to start one in the winter to feed it out. Kicker wagons leave my neighbor standing by his barn wishing some one would help him unload the 8 wagons he has just made. A ” bale babe” No offense please, is the best of efficiency and cooperation. I think the possible best thing would be loose hay, but I can’t say for sure ( my wife hates even the thought of it). As for loading on to the wagon with horses. It is great ( at least for us) I am fortunate to work pretty level ground. On the few side hills that do exist here I work a cross the hill and make short turn around on the ends. In Indiana I saw Amish pulling balers and wagons over ground as steep as your I bet. They had to be very careful how they stacked them to keep them from falling off.

    I think up and down big hills all the time would make it harder. Now that I think about it I have another Amish friend that is rigged for six, so he can bale on hills all day. Out to go mowing! I hope to bale tomorrow what I am mowing this morning. It is as much side hill as I get. I will try to get a little video of us making that up hill turn around. Only caveat would be that my baler has been very frustrating and probably will continue to be tomorrow!

    #80439
    dominiquer60
    Moderator

    “A ” bale babe” No offense please, is the best of efficiency and cooperation. I think the possible best thing would be loose hay, but I can’t say for sure ( my wife hates even the thought of it)”

    Bale Babes can work very well until the system is changed and it is not their idea, the mechanics are easy, the emotional maintenance can be tricky, choose your systems wisely 🙂

    #80440
    Donn Hewes
    Keymaster

    the hay is mowed and tedded today, about four acres. It has a nice crop of second cutting trefoil mixed with some dry first cutting grass. it appears it will dry easily and we can rake and bale early tomorrow. I hope so as now there is a threat of rain ( 20%). It was hard mowing, with some plugging for the younger teamster, and several passes to complete a triangle at the end. Those are always a pain, especially with heavy hay. It took us a little over an hour and a half with two teams, not particularly fast, but I think the horses may have gotten more rest than they needed with the plugging. At one pm we returned with the rotatory tedder and tedded in second gear (faster turning tedder) and that took a little over an hour. I was thrilled that I could ted what four horses mowed faster than they mowed it.

    Hopefully we will have a nice baling video tomorrow. D
    Ps. I think I fixed the baler today
    Pss. I broke a seat post on a mower today as i was coming out of the field. It is one that I had previously welded so I guess it isn’t too surprising that it broke again. I think the welds lasted about two years. Today I was able to pull one off a parts mower. Good thing as it turns out those can be hard to find, and not readily available for purchase. Just in case anyone is wondering, “bale Babe” is a term of endearment I use for my wife when she stacks bales on the wagon; which she likes so much she usually won’t share the job with anyone. d

    #80445
    Eli
    Participant

    One night after work I worked untill dark to rake bale and pickup 62 small bales off of about an acre. The next I helped a neighbor pick up large square bailes on a little over 100 acres. Kind of makes me wonder about how I make hay. Eli

    #80447
    Donn Hewes
    Keymaster

    Hi Eli, What does it make you wonder about how you make hay? Last night it rained 2/10ths of an inches. Makes me question why I get up! It seems pretty clear to me that folks that buy hay are making more money than folks that make it or sell it. Folks that sell it are, for the most part, not realizing the cost of the nutrients they are selling from their farm.

    To make your own hay for your own animals; especially with horse power, seems to me to be an effort to demonstrate a system that can be more sustainable. Of course there is nothing in our economic system intended to reward sustainability.

    I also make hay with horses, because I enjoy it, I can’t really think of anything else I would rather do. Even with the rain and baler problems. I don’t know how true that would be if I was working off farm five days a week. I think that makes it tough.

    #80449
    mitchmaine
    Participant

    hi donn, I actually agree with you back about the loose hay. we put it up that way when I was a kid and if you are set up, it goes pretty slick, and you can figure and repair a hay loader in no time.
    I also think you are right about the wisdom of making hay, but by now i’m thinking its a condition or disease or something and just something i’m stuck with and try to deal with it.
    hard enough just making hay without being a mechanic, or weatherman.
    good luck there, mitch

    #80450
    Eli
    Participant

    Donn it was more of a sarcasm thing I worked just as hard both nights one night made 1 acre and over 100 the next. I do refrigeration work an dairy farms so when the weather gets hot I get busy. 5 days a week plus on call nights and week ends. Makes it hard to make hay. I was a dairy farmer for 20 years and making hay was one of my favorite things to do. I am working toward cutting second crop with my horses but time will tell. Eli

    #80452
    near horse
    Participant

    Farming used to require us to be the jack of all trades – including mechanic and weatherman. Modern farming tends to sub out the various jobs now but some of us can’t afford that and wouldn’t want to.

    At present, I mow, ted and rake w/ my horses and use a hay slip/sled behind my baler and then pickup packs of 8 w/ a grapple on my tractor. The only sentient beings involved are me, Ranger and Red.

    I’m trying to get to bale onto a wagon but most square balers here came w/ side drop chutes to allow use of bale wagons. Wagon hitches and chute extensions are pretty rare.

    #80454
    Eli
    Participant

    I do service and refrigeration work on daries in eastern Wisconsin and the Up. I can’t believe what some people pay me to do. I always fixed everything I could myself. People have changed, some don’t even look they just pick up the phone.
    I hope to cut some second crop with my horses but I have never done it before. My goal is to cut a little 2 acre field that is a little thin and should mow easy. I wanted to rake with the horses Sunday but was in a hurry so I took the tractor,then blew a hydraulic hose. Should have used the horses.
    I built a 10 bale grapple for the front of my skid steer but it has been so wet I get stuck and didn’t get a chance to use it much.

    #80472
    KMichelle
    Participant

    This idea of ‘bale babes’ I find intriguing… Today was another day of bale loading, by hand onto the horse-wagon. This is our second crop alfalfa, and triticale hay. We’ll probably end the season with over 3,000 bales, counting the big squares that we do with the tractor. I had been reading this forum with some musing, since our bales here weigh in about 70 to 80 lbs at times – you won’t catch me stacking them. So I drive the wagon and informed Cole and Francis, the biceps-force we use to load bales, they were MY ‘bales babes’. I think they smiled.

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