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ParticipantGeoff:
I attended the UWYO ag day in Powell, one of the demos was an oilseed presentation, with a press from Germany.
They grew camelina in dryland and irrigated lands and did a cost feasibiility study over a couple years etc. etc.
I have all the paperwork here if you are interested, but it may also be available through the UWYO extension…Participanthttp://www.hobbyfarms.com/farm-industry-news/2009/12/28/hoop-house-funding.aspx
NRCS program to cost share hoop houses if you are interested.
ParticipantAnother update, don’t think its been covered yet here, RR alfalfa has been approved without restrictions.
Apparently the “coexistence” talk was just to cool down the public roar? Apparently it has worked, Whole Foods, Organic Valley, Stonyfield Farms have all drank the coolaid and have backed off their anti GMO stance.http://www.roundupreadyalfalfa.com/
Quite a milestone actually, the first RR product which is perennial. Arguably, cross pollination to conventional alfalfa will be unstoppable. RR alfalfa being approved is now a benchmark for other RR crops….
http://www.organicconsumers.org/monsanto/
It is fantastic to see how this crap can be legally advocated and grown while polluting the air, water, and killing microorganisms in the earth to provide a product which is altered in its chemical composition and trespasses onto my property so I cannot legally keep my own seed, all the while, I still can’t in the foreseeably future sell a jug of milk.
ParticipantWho knows if the “new” found pathogens are good or bad, but originating from a company with a history of the a bomb, agent orange, pcb’s, ddt, rbgh, aspartame, and an identical history of coverups, bribes, false advertising, falsifying tests and studies, and wrecking Wyoming and Idaho with its awful mining policies of late, I did not send Monstanto, or Vilsack, a valentine this year.
Participantinteresting if we could stick it upside down in our fast flowing irrigation canals for some hydro?
ParticipantNice Erik, please keep us posted. I closely followed projects like Mag-Wind http://www.wind-works.org/articles/Mag-WindPyramidalPower.html as I thought VAWT’s hold some higher benefits, but haven’t seen the results to show it yet….
ParticipantI guess I have a problem with the radical people who surge forward out of anger.
And I have a problem with the well meaning truth seeking folks who will not get involved because of fear of repercussions.
Mostly I respect the ones involved in civil disobedience who are doing it out of hope for the future. Not a “kumbya we are the world” type of endeavour, though I like singalongs:D rather seeing a need to promote truth and justice for the greater good.I have a dad who defended homeopathy by refinancing his property and spent $250k proving that homeopathy works. Now its taught in Canadian veterinary circles , though they successfully took away his license to do medicine because he kept poor records of drug inventory…..Good job dad, please don’t be bitter….
I have family who have been jailed and one person killed over oil ecoterrorism. I don’t know the circumstances or all the reasons, but when kids and animals start having adverse health problems and nobody will act, maybe I wouldn’t be so quick to condemn them ??
I was sued by a well known home improvement store 4 yrs. ago in a completely frivolous trademark infringement lawsuit. They wanted my corporate name, told me they were an 80 billion dollar company and they would get it.They insisted I accept blame, in writing, which we decided in good conscience we couldn’t do… If I didn’t defend my self, the law would have given them everything but $6k. So tens of thousands of dollars later, they dropped the charges I gave them my business name and on with our lives….What I’m trying to say is that there are battles to be fought in life, by some, it is important not to judge others decisions. I think it is very important to remain hopeful for the future, and for myself, today, what I can do is mostly shut up and work, and lead by the best example I can. And have good answers ready when people ask.
Somehow hopefully the important action describe in this thread can be done so that those involved don’t regret their actions. So proper planning and vision is important to proceed, sounds like some of that is being done by the “backwoods radicals” at RV, and heres hoping it continues in the future.
Heres to wisdom for all, and
PEACE from this non hippy radical (I’m radical cause I quit watching tv and today I spent 8 hrs. with my horses and fresno scraping snow that would have melted…and I hope it snows again:eek:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZffCe6dhL1UKevin
Participantalso, “demdarelogs”
Southern indiana for ” those logs” 😀
ParticipantRussel:
That is an awesome setup!
What say we send you some bred mares and a couple containers of new horse drawn equipment and catapult the horse drawn opportunities where you are?
😀 I’ll have to check, but I may be serious!:eek:
ParticipantJust got back from a drainage board meeting late last night. One of the topics of “discussion” which turned somewhat heated between neighbours, was that one neighbour cleaned a drain ditch on anothers property with a trackhoe. Trackhoe run by a new operator, started at the high end of the ditch and worked down, and got too deep. Hit an old 4 inch oil line, nothing was coming out, and he kept digging. As the ditch later filled with water, the water went into this 4 inch pipe, which it turns out follows the lay of the land going downhill. Water goes down this pipe, oil rises on top of the water and forces its way out the top, high end-into a canal, into the river. So homeland security and marathon and all kinds of people show up initially to clean up the mess which was reported by the newspaper to be 3 barrells worth of oil. Long story short, after the initial shock of oil, everyone packed up and left and the landowner was left with nothing repaired, remediated, or solved. Nobody knows whos pipe it was, the oil company from 1930 is gone, nobody does anything else about it….
Go back a year, when we had a trackhoe. I was hired to install agricultural drains on farmland, and kept running through 3 inch iron pipe, with black soiled ground surrounding the pipe for 2 ft diameter. I was told they were “abandoned” pipes but obviously they had slow leaks for years before they were abandoned….
One of my last jobs with the trackhoe; A large lake of several hundred acres had an outlet which is piped a few miles under a town, to a river. This outlet area over time built higher and higher with pussy willows, raising the level of the lake many feet and flooding neighbours out. I was hired to trench around the swamp and drain the lake. Turns out this lake was “treated” water from the local oil company. Strange fact of the matter, in a couple days of digging, I wasn’t bit by a single mosquitoe in the swamp, though loading up the machine in the nearby hayfield, the mossys tore me up. The lake was too toxic for mosquitoes to breed. An oily stench, with greasy bleed water, rose from the spoil piles I created. I cried a little sold the trackhoe and haven’t looked back. Except maybe just for a minute when I hand dug a hole to bury a draft horse this summer…
From what I’ve seen, BIg Oil rapes the land, on every scale imaginable. I have not yet seen them do otherwise. I hope I can be part of the solution someday…Participanthey scott did you see the arch for sale on craiglist, in Silverthorne. Check craiglist, high rockies I think….
Don’t know what a used one is “worth” but haven’t seen many for sale in the area….Participantthe #9 I drug out of the flowerbed had locked wheels. So we opened the gear housing and it was full of water- ICE! About blew a nut dragging it out of the guys yard so got some hot water and melted the chunk of ice…..Seemed to roll a lot better after that:rolleyes:
Anyways, I have found the cleaning properties of chainsaw bar oil to work great for rusty projects, it seems to have different detergents in it than other motor oil? I filled the mower with chainsaw oil and ran it 20 acres and all the rusty deposits/discoloration etc. were gone.
Not sure if that was ok to do but I did it…ParticipantMy dad was a veterinarian, and I grew up used to him getting stuck trying to get through the plowed shoulder of snow at the end of driveways. I think he got stuck on purpose in the Amish driveways so he would have to get pulled out with a team. They would pull the van all the way to the barn, then after he was done they would pull him back to the road.
Looking back, I think that was the “draft” powered seed that got me started….
ParticipantSounds like us westerners are gonna have to bring you all a set of tire chains to NEAPD next year????:D
Ya just aren’t cool around here unless you have tire chains to show off to your friends….
ParticipantHey that looks like my horse that was stolen 6 months ago!
Just kidding.:D Always talk out here of western stock getting taken back east and sold where there are no brand inspections…. Bunch of local cattle guys saying they are missing stock this year.
Jen, can you expound more on the “stifle issues” What are the symptoms, and how do you diagnose what the actual causes are?
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