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If my remember is right, here in Germany it is just contrary to America:
The black Angus is known as a breed with high quality beef, but also as a breed which fattens fast. We have another system of classifying beef, and fat is not as wished as in the states. Therefore many butchers don’t want to have black Angus and decline any black breed (or use it as a reason to pay less money for it). Many Angus breeders change therefore to Red Angus.
May be that Charly Bonifaz knows more about it or will correct me if I’m wrong.Wolfgang
May 5, 2011 at 8:31 pm in reply to: Oxen make the NY Times/Includes discussion of large scale animal-powered operations #66933fabianParticipant@Patrick 26810 wrote:
The best thing about the article is that it was correct. I’m so tired of reporters getting their facts wrong, or from pseudo experts, or making anything to do with animal agiculture hokey.
Oh, are the reporters in the States similar to them in Germany ?
fabianParticipant@Tim Harrigan 26650 wrote:
Nice yoke.
Thank you. I try to do my best.
@Tim Harrigan 26650 wrote:
So you ship your cattle up to high pastures in the summer?
No, I’m not in Bavaria 🙂
But I have no work for the cows during summer. So they have long holidays.
But if one comes who is interested in oxen, I can fetch the animals home in a few minutes 😉Wolfgang
fabianParticipantcomplete ! 🙂
frontside and backside
I wished it was fall……:(
Wolfgang
fabianParticipant@dominiquer60 26609 wrote:
I am not sure if that is the last yoke that you make Wolfgang. Yokes are like Frito Lays Potato Chips with their slogan “you can’t have just one.” Somehow I have 6 on hand at the moment, one we made, two were gifts, one purchased and two borrowed from neighbors. There are many advantages to having oxen over horses, but needing different sized yokes as they grow is not one of them:)
Erika
I have two yokes for training, one 6” and one 8” , a 9” yoke with too less width in the neck (the first I made without any instruction for help, think it will get a barn hanger), a 9” yoke, I made in January, with too less depth in the belly ( I corrected it with a layer at the bottom) and now this 9” yoke.
Because I drive with cows and because I can put also 8” bows into the yoke, this should be enough. The cows won’t outgrow a 9” yoke (my experience). It’s only so, that if the have had a calf during summer, it could be that they need in the coming winter the smaller bow because they have lost weight.Wolfgang
fabianParticipant@bivol 26605 wrote:
how are trhe oxen responding to it? are they visibly more comfortable?
We will see it when you come to visit me ! 😉
otherwise I will see in fall. The cows are in summer-holidays on pasture till november.@bivol 26605 wrote:
i still have to make my first yoke (bow is here though)!
you still have to make your first TEAM . 😀
Wolfgang
fabianParticipant@CharlyBonifaz 26575 wrote:
you’d be the one and only though
If NOBODY wants a neck yoke, ONE yoke maker will be exactly ONE to much. 🙁
@CharlyBonifaz 26575 wrote:
I like the dark colour (trademark?)
No trademark. I coloured it because so it can not be seen at the first look that it is made from laminated SPRUCE 😮 But I regretted it soon after covering it with polyurethane: One sees EVERY dust particle on it…….
trademark: I shaped the beam with my rotary cutter and made two mistakes (gliding into the wood). If you look close to the pic you will see two waves in front of the outside stave of the left bow. THESE I declared to be my future “trademark”: “original only with the two waves” 🙂@dominiquer60 26589 wrote:
very handsome indeed.
I’m not called for nothing “the best neck yokemaker in Germany” 😉
fabianParticipantooops.
The PC crashed and I could not attach the pics……fabianParticipant@bivol 25879 wrote:
then i’ll tell you so we arrange for a different time for visit, like in summer.
i’m flexible.You are welcome here when ever you have the chance 😉
fabianParticipant@bivol 25871 wrote:
ok then!
honestly i thought of bringing a suitable gift when visiting, so i’m glad we’re thinking of the same!:D
oh yeah, i’m thinking of making a visit to central europe, i’ll go to my aunt’s in netherlands, and to germany, to Kommern, so i guess i’ll drop by then!
thanks!
This year I will not at home when Kommern takes place (only the Sunday, I have a market date) . But what about a visit in the week before ? We will hitch up and make a tour like we did with Elke in 2009.
And without deciding about something which I can not decide about:
I guess, a bed near Kommern will be easily found (ox drovers are everywhere) 😉Wolfgang
March 24, 2011 at 8:05 pm in reply to: not with round staves, just for feeding the folks here…. #65709fabianParticipant@bivol 25853 wrote:
Wolfgang, beautiful photos!
do you have trouble with neighbours or horse owners?
Neither with neighbours, nor with horse owners.
But I do not want get trouble with the neigbours. In the past EVERYONE had cattle here. And everyone’s cows defecated (?) on the road when going to the pasture or working them. The interests of the citizens were similar. Now I’m the only cattle breeder here and I understand the people that they don’t like the manure or the dirt in front of their houses. So I try to avoid this.
mentioned horses and the horse owners:
I never had a relationship to horses, I’m cow foolish.
Therefore I regret that there is no other cattle in the village.
The horse owners are a class for its own. They all have the , as I call it, “horse owner desease”:
They begin with two horses and over the time they have 10 horses arround their homes. And that while living from public welfare….:mad:Wolfgang
fabianParticipant@bivol 25851 wrote:
as for those yokes, they sell em here, too, they cost about 20$…
The yokes with the bows or those with the plank ?
If the second: Please bring one with you to me when you will visit me here one time. 😉
You know you are wellcome…..Wolfgang
fabianParticipant@Vicki 25805 wrote:
I saw one of those kinds of yokes on ebay recently,
I saw them, too. Think there was an antique dealer who made a shoppingtour in Romania….
Wolfgang
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