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And I know it’s not draft, but fun anyway – showjumping!
Nat(wasIxy)ParticipantLet’s hear it for the buffalo…and the guys who keep up with them!
Nat(wasIxy)ParticipantApologies if this has already been posted but I thought it was interesting – the harness is primitive, and I would have thought pressing on the windpipe but the animal seems fine? Fine enough to be happily wandering along bellowing! (not pain bellowing IMO, that’s the sound our cows make when they are excited/getting fed)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8e3BrMLcN9g&feature=related
and this looked fun, amazing they can keep that pace when their heads are strapped together like that – I would looooove to get my hands on some semen from this breed, whatever they are! The hump would be handy, too…
Nat(wasIxy)ParticipantCattle do sweat; they might not ‘froth up’ like horses when working but we clip our cattle over here when they come in to prevent them sweating, getting chilled and getting pneumonia. I have seen my simmental in ther photos there drenched in sweat when used as a teaser with a cow in heat. They also have the dewlap as a surface area/blood flow increaser in hot weather, which horses don’t have. Obviously, Bos Indicus breeds take it further and have even larger dewlaps etc. But there is that variation in horses too – like the difference between an exmoor pony and an arabian? I’d see that as a breed chocie question rather than species 😀
Nat(wasIxy)ParticipantI was told a few things about oxen before I started:
They are weaker
They are slower
They are stupid
They are dangerous
You can’t ride them
They have to be worked in pairs, and will only work with their mateAll of which has turned out to be complete….well, you can imagine 😉
I think a LOT of the misconceptions come from the past, when nobody cared how they were trained or harnessed, when they were smaller and fed poorly (out of necessity). They were compared with horses which were larger, harnessed well, fed well and trained sympathetically. Those that took the time to harness and train oxen right seem to have been rewarded, but these accounts seem to be largely ignored by a public in love with the horse.
Don’t know where the needing two people comes from – I work all mine alone?
So far my oxen have turned out to be as strong and fast as any horse I’ve had contact with (and I used to be very horsey, worked with them, ridden since I was a kid etc). They also learn faster, are far more sensible, more sure-footed, agile/nimble/flexible, and don’t let their fear dominate their lives as much and seem to suffer far, far less from lameness, colic etc. Mine are all trained singly, and harnessed with collars or breast pads instead of being yoked to a mate with a big piece of wood. I think this allows them to move freely, and they are faster. Could you jog any distance (comfortably) with a big chunk of wood strapped between you and another jogger?
But, if you LIKE horses, definately work with them. You’ll only get results with cattle if you like them! In comparison I find horses faffy to work with, stupid and ugly, with long naggy faces, knobbly knees and big clompy hooves. Don’t even like the smell 😀 Used to love them, but since I discovered oxen I’ve completely changed! There’s a few exceptions, but I doubt I’ll ever own a horse. Plenty of horsepeople feel the same about cows!
Nat(wasIxy)ParticipantThis one probably doesn’t help!
Nat(wasIxy)ParticipantI will get one for you at some point – yes, it does sit very low compared to a horse, but the band quite naturally sits there; I did have some extra straps that I thought would be needed to hold it up and stop it slipping onto his legs, but actually they weren’t needed, it holds there well by itself. It’s quite easy to feel the right place by hand. Any lower down and it interferes with his legs, further up and there’s too much windpipe/dewlap in the way! Angus was fine with it, and he is my guide 😀
Nat(wasIxy)ParticipantThe glamourous side of being a small oxfarmer – dark, cold and dirty.
Nat(wasIxy)ParticipantI was teaching my herefordX to bow and pick up a bucket today. In under ten minutes she was lifting her leg before I went to pick up the hoof and going down on one knee without complaint, and had figured out that mouthing the bucket handle was getting her a treat. I thought I’d better leave it there or we’d be doing a full circus act at the end of an hour! 😉 I’ve taught pigs to do tricks, and it would take at least two longer sessions to get the same result IME.
Nat(wasIxy)ParticipantJust a little update on this:
There’s a question mark over Marty’s head. She’s 7months old now, and quite frankly, a bit dull! She’s the only survivor from the place I used to buy ayrshires and ayrshire Xs from, and her growth has certainly been stunted. She seems prone to parasites and eye infections too. I’ve bought in posh food just for her to try to improve her, but it’s not achieiving much. I think I could overlook caring for a sickly ox if there was a spark of talent there but I guess the lack of hormones makes her a bit….blank? She doesn’t learn very quickly.
I’m beginning to think I should perhaps resign her to a beef fate (she’ll still get 2yrs with the herd!) and get a pair of steers….from someone else! The ayrshire breed are certainyl a sensible size, good looking and with a good temperament, I’m blaming this particular guy rather than the breed as a whole.
Nat(wasIxy)ParticipantI had almost the exact same thing when Angus was young, but big enough for me not to be able to drag anymore – he decided he would *not* go through a particular gate (I think because there was a dead crow in a water butt next to it that he could smell perhaps?). After trying brute force I tied him where he was (would NOT allow him to back away from the gate) went and got a long, long rope, wound it round a post past the gate and cranked him through. – never a problem since with that gate or any other! You just always have to win.
Well done!
Nat(wasIxy)Participantanother good idea – I’ve added that to favourites to show him, thanks
Nat(wasIxy)ParticipantI was just reading this morning about various old tribes in africa that used oxen rather than horses – they had a big part to play in funerals apparently.
Nat(wasIxy)ParticipantI am donating 10% of all proceeds of my courses to them. Great cause I believe in.
Nat(wasIxy)ParticipantIt retails at £1000 + VAT as is, but fabrication is completely flexible so if anyone else wanted one….? He put bars on the early prototype but had ground clearance issues, however he has designed it for crawling up mountainsides whereas our land is flat as a pancake so I think it’ll be OK…
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