[Neil Dimmock]

HI most tractor mounted ones up here were called a farm hand after a Manufacturer of these, the buck rake was one of the attachments that you could use on these. I thought you meant the horse drawn one, any way lots of people loaded wagons with tracktor loaders, unloading taks some tools though or your in for a lot of forking, sent a pic of a overshot and buck rakes.

[Neil Dimmock]

I haven’t got my Jay hawk restored yet but it would do it, so will an overshot, just bring the hay up with the buck rakes and load on the shot and upend into the wagon. a hay loader would be faster and need a lot less help
Neil

[Neil Dimmock]

I cut mine when they are two, it allows the urethra to develop bigger which will let him pass any stones later in life, And it lets the late bloomers drop, You do have to put up with a young pup for a little longer but it pays in the long run!
Neil

[Neil Dimmock]

Here’s another

[Neil Dimmock]

sounds like a good one! have you got a pics!

[Neil Dimmock]

Its not a modify!! or jobber!! or a retro fit!! Its factory equipment!!This is not some sort of butchery its was recommended by four top Manufactures!! and it was offered in all regions! I am not trying to sell any one any thing Like a harness or trucks but when you have used mowers as much as I ( And I have cut more with a horse mower than most have with a tractor ) then some one runs down the best idea for mowers that the top manufacturers offer I wonder! Its not an over think, Its problem solved, There is no down side to trucks none!! they corner sharper, the mower runs steadier with less vibration, the horses are more comfortable as well as the operator! If the cutter bar hangs on a stump it hinges at the trucks and save the mower from busting! In tough cutting the bar pulls the pole against the right hand horse with a standard pole with the auto steering it brings the bar back straight and the pole stays in the middle with out rubbing on the horse, the rolling and rocking motion of just two wheels lets the pole bump and rub the horses all day, if you don’t think so just video your self cutting for awhile, Trucks stop that, if fact it eliminates it all together. there is some old wife tales about the wheels in front falling in a hole and throwing you in to the horses which we busted last year. we walked the mower over a power pole and the driver never lost his seat, and the one with out trucks bounced out and hurt his tail bone, then we dug a three foot hole and walked them over, well the team stretched around the hole, and the front wheels fell only a little ways and then the tugs catch and hold them up until it was clear, the two wheeled one wiggled in to the hole and the driver lost his seat again!!!! I just cant see how a modified harness would help any of the above, I have 18 teams and I use all but the mares with foals at foot all summer, there are almost all black which show any sores or scalds and a white mark and You cant not find one on any of mine, not one, so I guess I have no need for a dring harness!!
Neil

[Neil Dimmock]

you can start a fire with two sticks, but I like a match, I have used all kinds of harness and teach classes on how to fit harness and have used mowers with and with out trucks so I can say with out guessing which works better( Have You ) or are you just guessing? thousands of acres have been cut with trucks to, and no sore necks plus no one had to sell all there harness and buy some obscure d ring thats ok but not necessary, I could care less if you are not convinced but running down a good idea that you may have or not used just adds to the confusion and they don’t complicate the mower in the lest, not much to go wrong there, and I can say that with certain because we have used them for over 20 years and not one has broken or wore out!

[Neil Dimmock]

You can see how mine are done in the pics but as long as you pull the bar, a heavy spring would be better than a dead hitch to the pole

[Neil Dimmock]

Yes the second one stays on the arms. I will draw them up and post them soon.
Neil

[Neil Dimmock]

[Neil Dimmock]

Yes I made it to haul two but it didnt work a 100%, it would load it fine and them pick the second up fine but it would not pic the second up off the deck, you had to push it off and then pick it up to unroll it, I made one for a guy and we used electric over Hydraulics with solved this but it was slow on real cold days,
Neil

[Neil Dimmock]

Hi Rod, one thing I would like to mention, you should pull your cutter bar, where the doubletree draft rod hooks to the mower you should run a rod or such to the pole or where you plan to hook the doubletree, lot of horse mowers were broke when people cut the pole off and just hooked on the the end of the pole, as the cutter bar pulls back it puts strain on the mower frame and it will break it.

[Neil Dimmock]

Well some just wont, Its like the diff, between a two wheeled cart and a four wheeled wagon, I have had a set of d ring to use here and it took some neck weight off but not much and its a 200lb vibrating load so even if you moved all the load to the back it still would sore, but if you are happy with it so be it but some like me that cut 200+ acres each year it only takes a couple of afternoons to see why trucks are liked. No sores any where, your back is not so sore from the mower wiggling and waving around the field, your but is not so sore from the vibration of the seat( yes trucks help a lot with that to) and your ( teams ) are not as tired at the end of each day, All the new comers that cut hay with me end up using the mowers with truck after a few days, Its easy for some one that has not preconceived Ideas to see the benefits, if you have only 10 acres to do or just tow afternoons then your not going to need any but any one that cuts a lot of hay will like them, I teach seminars on Driving, farming, showing, training, Harnessing, competing and if I have a student that seems confused I try and piont out the the blinders are for the horse:)

[Neil Dimmock]

Heres a few pics ,

[Neil Dimmock]

Hi Ronnie I’ll try and post the plans as soon As I find them, this one I like because you can take it off wagon and put it on a sleigh
Neil

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