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Hello,

from my experience it’s almost impossible to prevent mold on leather in a moist environment – one exception is daily use.

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Hello Rod,

this should be similar to teach a horse to “ground tie” with a rein hanging down to the ground.

If you don’t want to use aversive training methods (I remember that one way to teach horses ground tying was to have them step on the rein and get a jerk in the mouth every time until they stand still) you’ll need time and patience to gradually build up the period of time the oxen will stand and wait.

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Hello,

maybe it didn’t come out right.

I have no doubt that two animals can adapt to work as a group. But seeing Emma way longer stand, ruminate while standing (not lying down), watching her surroundings while Roy is dozing, ruminating, relaxing – I get a feeling that could be translated to “sleep deprivation” in a way.

In a larger group, the position of guardian shifts during the daily cycle. But Roy doesn’t do his share for whatever reasons and there’s no other cow that could relieve Emma from her self-appointed “duty” – at least for some time during a day.

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Hello,

I’ve often had the same effect when one of the goats is misbehaving really bad. As soon as the decision to make them into something tasty is made they behave like angels – at least for a while….:)

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if you take a close look at the picture under contact you can see what I think is a nose bit

http://www.ridingsteers1.netfirms.com/contact.htm

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@near horse 9260 wrote:

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Beet pulp also has a lot of protein in it – not like soy but certainly near the levels of barley and oats ~ 12% I should go double check the number but when you see what beet pulp is – the remains of sugar beets after sugar is extracted – all that is left is fiber (not very coarse) and protein.

that’s interesting. All of my food value books, tables, etc. say that beet pulp has almost NO protein left.

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Pictures:

http://www.markham.ca/mpl/history/images/pioneerkids_images/artifacts/neckyoke.jpg

a shop selling yokes

http://www.tealpaddles.com/prices.html

http://www.memorialhall.mass.edu/collection/itempage.jsp?itemid=5703

http://www.slowfood-hamburg.de/media/texte/handmelken3.jpg

http://www.heinrich-tischner.de/50-ku/technik/ldw/bilder/farb/f21.jpg

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I agree that he could have a bit more weight.

Additional to upping the hay and changing the concentrates (corn f.e. gives more “slow energy”) I would also think about doing (or having done) a fecal exame and in need worm him accordingly.

Next to oil, beet pulp is a good source of energy – almost pure carbohydrates while oats and other grain are more a source of protein.

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Hello,

welcome to the world of draft goats.

check out

http://www.harnessgoats.co.uk and

http://www.goattracksmagazine.com/harness.html – here’s a contact adress to get a manual about training goats to pull

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I don’t know if anne has an account here but I think she has. But she had a baby a few weeks ago and wasn’t much online.

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Hi,

check

http://www.razyboard.com/system/morethread-junge-gespanne-zu-verkaufen-ein-trainingsbericht-2-zugrinder-411995-5465631-20.html

this young woman trains cattle for riding and draught in Switzerland.

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Hello,

welcome to this forum. Where are you located in England?

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Hello,

if he were a horse I would suspect an old case of bronchitis in his past, maybe even undetected while on pasture.

I would treat him with a herbal mixture for lung problems. Rough lungs suspect most likely “only” irritated, swollen lung tissue (or a scarred one) without mucus production. So the mixture should reflect on treating the irritation but not inducing coughing.

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Rob,

I really need your help here :-). I remember you posting pictures of your oxen, one of them a bit smaller than the other, but I can’t remember on which position he was in the yoke.

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Rod,

which one of the two was it. The “smaller” one or the other?

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