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- November 15, 2011 at 3:01 pm in reply to: Logging workshop hosted by Draft Animal Power Network and The Farm School Athol MA #70087
Scott G
ParticipantJust found out yesterday that Southwest has a non-stop flight from Denver to Manchester. Manchester looks pretty close to Athol. Hmm…
ParticipantThe true game of logging. If these types of mishaps weren’t a constant we’d make too much money and be rich. Couldn’t stand for that…
ParticipantI don’t know of anyone who still hot brands horses out here. Cattle yes, horses no. Freeze branding is the norm. With a chute that open getting a sound single barrel shouldn’t of been a surprise for the guy…
ParticipantGeorge,
I hook all of my chains, set of tongs, sometimes peavey, etc to my grab hook on the single tree and skid it back into the cut unit. There are more than enough attachment places to hang, drag, or carry whatever I need back into the woods with me. I wear a wedge pouch/belt that has whatever saw tools or felling wedges/gear other than an axe or peavey that I would need. Really the only other stuff that goes back with me is personal gear in a pack (layers, T.P., first aid, & lunch), drinking water, saw fuel/oil, rigging, and an axe and peavey. Saw goes over my shoulder and lead rope goes in the other hand…With the optimum maximum twitch distance being a 100 yards and rarely exceeding 200 or so I’m not exactly dissapearing into the backcountry. The truck is usually only a few minutes away for me. When I get to a point where I’m doing more forwarding most of the gear will be brought in on the machine/trailer/sled.
Working by myself; felling, limbing, and bucking as well as swamping out skid trails easily takes 2/3 of my time with the remainder used for skidding. That means that Dobbin is often back at the trailer/landing entertaining himself with a haybag or something else for a good chunk of the time.
ParticipantVery nice, Carl! If you were to write this up I’m sure Joe M. would buy it and publish it in RH. Every bit of coin helps.
Questions beget more questions…
-average turn distance (twitch & forwarding)
-average turn time (twitch & forwarding)
– average volume per turn (twitch & forwarding)Also, were you looking for this harvest to pick up all of the road costs?
ParticipantI swear hames were meant for hanging stuff. I predominantly use a single so I’m with you on this one. With nylon webbing loops or baling twine you can pretty much hang anything off of a hames as long as it is guarded if its sharp or doesn’t flop and bang around too much. I carry my saw and lead my horse into the unit. Fuel, water, jacket, pack, etc… can all hang off the hames if it is easier for you. My backgound is with pack horses in the backcountry so I’m not hesitant to throw something on Dobbin. Since it is dead weight though, you need to balance it side-to-side.
The reality is I’m not usually working far from the main road/trail since I’m using a horse. If it was far I probably wouldn’t be there. Short distance makes it conducive to going in with saw gear, doing my felling, and then going back to get the horse.
ParticipantProbably some type of pathogen. Good chance that they could be fungal cankers. Nectria, possible. Armillaria, at least out here, is more associated with root disease. ‘Mycelial fans’ under the bark on stumps and root flares are the easiest way to diagnose Amillaria. Can be really problematic in our spruce/fir forests on mesic sites.
Not being from your area is tough. I would contact your pathologist/extension agent from your local State Forest Service/DNR. That is why they are there and more often than not it is a free service for you.
ParticipantTim,
In the Rockies, I try to leave a minimum of 3-5 larger diameter snags per acre for cavity nesters and others. Often, I’ll have to leave a few more anticipating that once I open a stand up I am going to lose a few to windthrow. They really need to be a minimum of 10-12″ diameter to make a decent snag. Bigger is better.
I have found that girdling trees to create snages is a mixed bag. Out here the wind blows so hard that often those girdled trees will snap off at the kerf. My preferred method to create a snag is to make a decent slash pile at its base and then torch it…
ParticipantThe machinerate.xls calculation spreadsheet that I have put out there was developed by the Forest Engineering/Timber Sales Staff from R-6/USFS. The precise reason being what Tom just mentioned, so that the foresters could calculate out a reasonable stumpage rate. Some of the larger shows know their costs, but the vast percentage of gyppos do not. My soapbox is worn out on that one…
ParticipantMitch…200 bucks!!
I just bought a brand new set of beta single lines over a year ago for $36(Troyers)! Team lines are $54 (I like the beta over leather or bio because of the grip, flexibility, & feel,even when frozen or wet).
I know the Europeans, especially the loggers, use small-diameter rope lines almost exclusively. I’ve thought about it but I really like my beta lines.
I don’t fault you for wanting to keep the rope lines and try them out for a bit longer and maybe switch, but don’t ditch conventional lines because they are running you $200. Must be made out of some really nice leather…
Please tell me there is more to this story…
October 17, 2011 at 3:44 pm in reply to: An Introduction to Silvicultural Practices for Private Woodlands – Webinar #69687ParticipantHow’s that, Geoff? 😀
ParticipantCarl,
Even though I know you didn’t delve into time/motion on tracking numbers, do you have any rough mental figures on PH(ProductiveHours) vs SH(ScheduledHours) and/or the rough utilization% of PH (i.e. how often was someone standing waiting for someone else to finish or get out of the way)?
Also, do you feel as though you were maximizing each turn, both skidding(twitching) and running loads with the forwarder?
-S
Participant@Robert MoonShadow 29391 wrote:
I got the harness…spent 2 hours adjusting it – I find that fun, but then, I’m weird.
Not weird at all, Robert. I’m looking forward to swapping out some harness parts, re-bit a couple of headstalls, etc. tommorow. I’ve been known to tinker in my stock trailer on harness, rigging, etc.. for hours. Not weird, that’s just the way we are…
Kudos for putting everything together for the playday. Alas, not meant to be this fall, but I know an InterMountain Rendevous is just meant to be, hopefully in the very near future 😉
ParticipantBummer, I am going to have to bow out as well. Tweeked my back last week which has put me further behind than I already am. I’ll be the optimist and say it is time to plan for the spring/next year’s rendevous!
-SParticipant@Robert MoonShadow 29101 wrote:
1) It might not be appropriate to introduce these spores to an area that they aren’t native in…
Your friends are absolutely correct. Its amazing how seemingly insignificant non-native organisms can really screw up entire ecosystems. The evidence of that scenario is all around us. I’m encouraged that your fellow shroomers caught on to that right away.
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