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[Neil Dimmock]

@Carl Russell 3211 wrote:

Neil,
You may be a high-headed pony, and it’s not that I don’t appreciate spirit, in fact I’ve given you plenty of line, but this is my hitch, and there are some pretty simple rules to participate. From the thousands posts by others, it is clear that most people accept the number one rule to respect each other by posting thoughtfully.

The fact is that I have never attacked nor insulted YOU personally, only challenged your assumptions, and rude responses. Let’s face it not every body is going to be a subscribing member of the Neil Dimmock Fan Club, but it doesn’t mean that our interests, thought processes, or experiences are less valuable than yours.

The fact that I don’t value SOME of things that you do, IS my own view, it has nothing to do with YOU, and I never made mention of YOUR choice, only the fact that I see no value in the display. I’m not really sure why you can only see yourself in the picture, but there is a lot more to comment on than just how good you know you are at what you choose to do. I don’t take your comments personally, why should you, mine?

If it’s in the water, you ought to bottle and sell it. I have never known of anyone who was as accomplished as you. Every decision, or choice you make is the right one. Nothing ever goes wrong at your farm, and you have so much experience that you are the best at everything that you do. Truly beyond human capability. Really, bottle that water.

Otherwise, get down off that high ride of yours and contribute at a human level. You obviously feel safe enough to rant, rave, and insult. Now let down your guard and be a little more honest. I am no different that any body else, some days I’m more or less defensive, or aggressive, depending on what I’ve eaten (or whether the stool softener works), but this community must be based on the acceptance of differing views. Although I am willing to accept that your inclination is to be defensive and dismissive, that is clearly not the community experience that the rest of us are working to create.

Some might argue that by confronting you, it is I who is creating the negative environment, because I should be able to see that you are only going to escalate the situation. However, I see my job as overseer of this site as needing to be the one who says what nobody else wants to say.

It is your choice whether you decide to modify your behavior, back up your skill with content, and be willing to advance the discussion in a way that includes other views. If you continue the need to dismiss dissenting views as inadequate and insignificant, then you will have to take full responsibility for the image that you create of yourself.

Feel the bit yet?

Carl

Yes you have and I just put you down as one of those!!

[Neil Dimmock]

@Plowboy 3225 wrote:

Carl, I was thinking of a similar response but you hit the nail on the head. Too bad that someone with so much experience can’t use it in a more positive manner and help grow the industry instead of boasting about his accomplishments and running down those with a different view. There is so much to learn and everyone can learn a thing or two no matter how long they’ve been at it.

Didn’t boost just responded to an insult, if ya cant learn then dont blame the teacher

[Neil Dimmock]

@Plowboy 3225 wrote:

Carl, I was thinking of a similar response but you hit the nail on the head. Too bad that someone with so much experience can’t use it in a more positive manner and help grow the industry instead of boasting about his accomplishments and running down those with a different view. There is so much to learn and everyone can learn a thing or two no matter how long they’ve been at it.

I never stop learning, never!! and thats what makes me good!

[Neil Dimmock]

Any and all questions that are less than an insult I have answered as fully as any one on this site and I have not attacked any one but in fact I have been pounced on many a time because I can back what I say with what I do, I have yet seen such from the great( whoops) Mentor that sells his Ideas with out such, My views are very much different and they work Very well as you can see in the videos I have posted if this offends you or you wish I would drop of the planet so you can be the (ONE) then to bad! I will give you this though you have mastered the pen and can twist what most say to suit your needs, any one that I have menterd has came away with way more respect for me than anything you can say or do here!
I dont hid my Name ether, guess why!
Neil

[Carl Russell]

I realize that this has gone far enough, but running the risk of bordering on ridiculous, I will make one more post before I respond privately.

:confused::confused::confused::confused:
Neil, your posts last night show that you have little more interest than stirring up a hornets nest.

My management of this site is not about me. It is about you and all of the other members. This situation is not about me and you, and certainly it’s not about how good you are at what you do, it’s about the site, and the basic rules. Unfortunately you can’t seem to separate the two.

Perhaps I haven’t said enough about how much I value the good work you do, such as some photos I saw of 3 abreast on the swather. It’s great, but I see hundreds of others doing similar work, and I can also see value in the hard work and efforts of beginners.

After 25 years I have no need for more than a team working in the woods and on a very small farm. I’m totally fine with that for many reasons. It, however, does not diminish the value of the lessons I’ve learned.

My disinterest in show hitches, and large farm hitches has nothing to do with you, nor with safety issues, or any of the assumptions that you defensively respond to. It’s purely a personal choice, I have no interest. I realize that others do. Fine. Why does that hurt so much? Why can’t you share with us some of the challenges, or the thrill, or try to enlighten us?

I just don’t understand what you expect to gain from berating me, or anyone else, or challenging us to prove our skill. As if that makes you better. I own my own skills for my benefit, and although I try to share my perspective with others, I don’t care if others agree. In some cases I just use my opinions to get others to share their’s.

You have missed the point. If I wanted to ban you, all it takes is a push of a button, and I do it several times a day to get rid of all kinds of unwanted posts. I realize that you do contribute material and experience that is one of a kind, and it has its valuable, but I will not let you hold that against me.

Please Neil, let this go. Take it as a warning though. We need to have more constructive interchange here. If you feel you have to lob negative comments, please use PM or e-mail.

I’m done.

Carl

[jen judkins]

@Neil Dimmock 3226 wrote:

He didnt ask any questions just made coments

And the crime here is what? Comment, question, who cares….still requires a thoughtful response (or no response at all). Part of being a mentor and a teacher (which btw you are whether it is your intention or not, given your considerable talent) is to foster an environment of learning in which students or colleagues exchange ideas for the common good.

Back in the day, when I was a surgical resident, many of my mentors were very hard to learn from…they were just down right mean. I did learn quite alot from them, but the quality of that learning experience was very low and it was fear based. I had ulcers and was terribly sleep deprived…scared to screw up…just a terrible experience (I feel sorry for the patients I was charged to care for:o). Were it not for some really quality mentors and my horses, who bring me back to the center, I would likely be a very f*&^%$ed up individual.

So it surprises me that you have such considerable talent with horses, but seem to struggle abit with people. I highly doubt you are successful as you are with horses using fear and intimidation. So why use it with people? I ‘get’ that people can be more challenging in many ways, but I think expectations make for reality. Anyone successful with horses, knows that force and coercion might work for a day, but not in the long run. We all have to seek cooperation to make things work. We have to expect things will work out, that our horses aren’t intentionally triing to be wrong, that they want to learn and be part of the team. I don’t think it is a bad idea to treat people the same way. Jennifer.

[Neil Dimmock]

oh my oh my what bunk!! I have never use fear or intimidation on any one! NEVER!! I think I get it, your starting a school and need to put yourselves up High!! Saying such to me after helping you is just( ) I have never been so insulted I am very good with horse because I have a very gentle hand and the same goes for my wife and kids and all my friends world wide!! You cant do the thing I do by being the person you say I am, no way, I hope you dont call your self a good christian and then slander me like that, I know you wont post the whole thread so I copied it and passed it around, After this this will be my last thread but not the last that you will hear from me, ijoy your selfs
Neil

[Carl Russell]

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Thanks, and sorry.
Carl

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