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- December 1, 2008 at 11:00 am #39950Does’ LeapParticipant
What do folks do with their chain(s) while ground skidding logs? That is when they are not actually skidding and just traveling from landing back to the log. I have been dragging it behind my evener, but find I lose it at times and have to go back and find it. Also, do you use more then one chain? I was re-reading Jason’s comments on chains (he uses two – one long and one short while arch skidding), and feel two might come in handy.
Thanks.
George
December 1, 2008 at 1:06 pm #48385Jim OstergardParticipantI use more than one chain when ground twitching but I usually hang the extra ones on a nearby branch. Working single I can drive with one hand and hold the rigging (single chain) with the other. Sort of keeps me in a balanced tension.
I put “g” links at the end of two 7′ chains. Got them off a set of skidder chains. This allows me to hook to chains together when I am not able to get the horse close to the twitch for what ever reason, brush, standing wood and such. Hopes this helps.
JimDecember 1, 2008 at 1:12 pm #48383Rick AlgerParticipantYou can always wrap the chain around a hame, but you shouldn’t have to.
I don’t know how you are set up, but if you don’t have a “deep” swivel hook I suggest you get one. The swivel helps keeps the chain and evener stable , the hook has a slot deep enough to hold two chains and narrow enough to keep them from sliding through.
I use two chains occasionally to pull two separate logs or to yank a log out of a difficult spot.
December 1, 2008 at 2:46 pm #48381Dave CamireParticipantDepending on skid distance I will wrap the chain over my shoulder or leave it attached to the swivel hook. I typically use 6ft chokers 5/16 chain for small wood, have not broke one yet. I do carry 8ft chokers on 3/8 chain for the cart or use with Farmi winch.
December 2, 2008 at 10:53 am #48386Does’ LeapParticipantThanks for the replies. Where do you get your swivel hooks? I have one that I inherited, but would like a back-up (maybe one with a deeper slot).
George
December 2, 2008 at 11:17 am #48384Rick AlgerParticipantYard sale if you are lucky. Otherwise get some old time backyard fabricator to make one.
December 2, 2008 at 2:48 pm #48379Carl RussellModeratorI get swivels from Logging or Equipment supplier. Then using clevises, one at the evener and one between the swivel and the hook. I use a key-hole grab hook, like on skidder sliders, they are deep, hard to lose a chain, and they have the loop built into them. I have been using this set up for 10-15 years now, and only worn out one swivel, and rarely drop a chain. The key-hole is a convenient and comfortable way to handle even a heavy steel double-tree.I also find them quick and easy for hitching to the chain.
I never use any more than one chain when ground skidding. 8′-5/16 or 3/8, but I prefer the lighter. With a good length of chain several logs can be wrapped together without the need for a second chain. Only when using the cart do I sometimes need extra chain to get a log out of reach. It is much safer if you can wrap several logs together when skidding, then to try to handle them dragging and rolling separately.
Carl
December 2, 2008 at 7:47 pm #48387Does’ LeapParticipantCarl:
Thanks for the reply. What exactly are swivels? I am assuming they have some sort of eye on both ends through which you attach your clevises. I am familiar with the key hole grab hook. Do you put the clevis through the large part of the key hole to attach to the swivel? Better yet, do you have a picture.
George
December 3, 2008 at 1:23 am #48382Mark CowdreyParticipantDecember 3, 2008 at 2:35 am #48380Carl RussellModeratorNice googling Mark!!!
George, I think I recall Tim Huppe from Berry Brook Ox Supply telling me he has some made up with clevises right on the swivel to shorten the whole hitch. If you have a good welder, you could open one end, and reweld it around the key hole. Other wise I just use two clevises.
Carl
December 3, 2008 at 10:25 am #48388Does’ LeapParticipantGot it. Thanks.
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