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- October 18, 2009 at 1:22 am #48078bivolParticipant
I’M GLAD NOTHING HAPPENED TO YOU! :eek::eek::eek:that was an intense situation …
but i did enjoy your story a lot, thank you for sharing it OldKat, and good job!!
in such situations the attack can be, as you know, the best defense. it sure worked, and i think Rusty will put you on his “avoid them:” list.
good thing we talked about cattle aggression, you never know when you need it, and i’m glad you could use it before it was too late.that bull was at the hight of his aggression; he defeated another bull, and was feeling like “the king of the field”! he was sure he was the strongest in the field, and he would fight every intruder!
but, he never attacked a human being, so he pauses (thanks to you waving cap , GOOD THINKING!), and when his attack stops, you hit!
after the first fist (first pain has to be strong to make the point!) he was so shocked, and staggered, and then the most important part comes: you, at once, step forward (take the initiative), and whack him again, and he sees you’re still not done!at that point he’s bein assaulted by an opponent who is causing him lots of pain, whom he doesn’t know how to fight against, who is very aggressive and is constantly attacking without break! his offense crumbles (you had clearly demonstrated you’re way stronger) so he’s getting outta there NOW!
attacking without giving them time to think is most important. good thinking you waved that baseball cap, he paused, that was enough to assault him.
analyzing the situation, i have a question: did Oklahoma! see you drive Rusty away?
if he did, or if he at least figured out you did, that means you beat the bull that beat him, which could make you even bigger in his eyes. though i don’t know if cattle have this kind of reasoning, they should, but i don’t want to jump to conclusions.just an idea:
maybe one day, when you won’t be as nimble (sorry,:p but none of us is getting any younger) you could take a good dog with you, like an american bulldog, that could, if need be, protect you and drive the bull off in case he charges you.
they used to have such dogs in the past to work cattle… the only problem would be that cattle may not respect you without your dog.thanks for telling what happened!
October 19, 2009 at 9:44 am #48127Nat(wasIxy)ParticipantGood grief! My heart was in my mouth reading that! Good quick thinking, and lucky it worked out OK!
November 9, 2009 at 11:18 am #48131mother katherineParticipantBivol, did you ever get the videos from Kanfanar ox fest uploaded?
If you have 20 minutes’ worth, would it be possible to copy it onto a cd and send to me?
I have only one video of oxen and watch it constantly; I’d like to have something else.
oxnunNovember 9, 2009 at 8:56 pm #48104CharlyBonifazMemberhttp://www.dmax.de/video/holzfaeller-extrem-mit-axt-und-maultier-1/
5 chaptered video on mule logging in Southern Tennessee
to make it hard on you: they synchronized it in German 😉November 15, 2009 at 12:28 am #48079bivolParticipantlet’s start with a little asian vid. here one can clearly see the symetrical plow that is tilted to produce the furrow. the power source is a buffalo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SKLsdh0Bsg&feature=player_embeddedplowing with bantengs
(i think)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ki7PKnWv0Gw&feature=relateda romanian buffalo wagon
there are, since medieval times, water buffaloes in romania, as there are in hungary too (how they got there beats me though!)
oh, check out one-bad-ox / one-good-ox temperaments 😀
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzq912Yi288oxnun, i have some at least 10 minutes of oxen action, plowing and some little wagon pulling i filmed a year ago. this year i only took photos…
have to upload the rest soon…if you want the whole footage of the festival, about 20 minutes, i’ll send it, but this week i’m really busy, and my brother (cousin actually) is too, and he is the technical guru of the family. so after that i’ll ask him to burn it, and send it.
others are Envoile le petite i got from France. unfortunatelly no subs, but i think they make them subbed now. it’s about working oxen in france. i think you can order it on the web, i got into contact over this forum.
December 5, 2009 at 6:47 pm #48105CharlyBonifazMemberChampionship of plowing in Thuringia 19th+20th Sept.09
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCNLvh07JTo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLwsv_RGwMA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MVahec_yjs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFSByAHwrTE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOzdh4R9Z2k
😎
definitely no sulkyplows……December 13, 2009 at 4:41 pm #48080bivolParticipantnice plowing, Charly!
oxnun, i haven’t forgot, i’ll fix it round Christmass, sorry for taking so long!
anyway, a few videos:
turkey, logging with buffaloes (RARE):http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBoL_Op0MOQ&feature=relatedhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4AHeK7eEDI&feature=related
shoeing; a nice technique of getting oxen to the ground
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx0UgmN9dv8&NR=1from france:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOiZMMBYeJchttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdZntZzzrmc&feature=related
double hitch with a head yoke:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCSIk9v9CNU&feature=related
from Reunion:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMSILz4V8Zw&feature=related
December 13, 2009 at 5:25 pm #48106CharlyBonifazMember:D:D
while looking at yours, I found these multiple team hitches
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SHpNBTKmbU&feature=related
some of these cattle (beginning at 1.19) look rather tall, any idea what breed they are?December 13, 2009 at 8:23 pm #48113fabianParticipantThank you Bivol for always searching for new videos !
And when I look the videos for which you set the links, it will become a “never-ending-video-looking-session”, because I always find more vids.:DDecember 14, 2009 at 12:13 am #48081bivolParticipantno problem Wolfgang!
when i find something, it’s a minute to post it here, so everyone can see it. i’m glad people enjoy it!charly, i don’t know what breed they are, crosses maybe, castrated early, and so they are both bigger and taller.
just a few days ago i started using google translate to get me to different languagesi googled chinese words for “ox plow”, 牛耕
and found these videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9QyNHq8T0Ahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfVCwBtmYvk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bywjHMEHIB8
enjoy! 🙂
December 14, 2009 at 3:51 am #48097OldKatParticipant@CharlyBonifaz 13403 wrote:
:D:D
while looking at yours, I found these multiple team hitches
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SHpNBTKmbU&feature=related
some of these cattle (beginning at 1.19) look rather tall, any idea what breed they are?Just a guess here, but a semi-educated one; Gyr (Gir) X Holstein. The Gyr influence I am pretty sure of because of the shape of the horns, almost water buffalo looking and the domed forehead on some of the oxen. The dark color tells me that they are crossed with something that put the black to rusty red-black hide on them. The small patches of white with the darker body says Holstein.
That and I know that the Girolando (5/8 Holstein X 3/8 Gyr) is popular in South America. I suspect most of the animals shown in this video that are hitched to the two wheeled carts are either Gyr X Holstein F-1’s, Girolander, a back cross of the two or a third breed crossed on an Gyr x Holstein F-1 or a Girolander. Close as I can get from here. 🙂
December 14, 2009 at 3:57 am #48098OldKatParticipant@bivol 13402 wrote:
nice plowing, Charly!
oxnun, i haven’t forgot, i’ll fix it round Christmass, sorry for taking so long!
anyway, a few videos:
turkey, logging with buffaloes (RARE):http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBoL_Op0MOQ&feature=relatedhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4AHeK7eEDI&feature=related
shoeing; a nice technique of getting oxen to the ground
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx0UgmN9dv8&NR=1from france:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOiZMMBYeJchttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdZntZzzrmc&feature=related
double hitch with a head yoke:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCSIk9v9CNU&feature=related
from Reunion:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMSILz4V8Zw&feature=related
Aren’t those tan colored oxen in the video’s from France some beautiful animals? Wow, I’d LOVE to have team that looked like that and I am not even an oxen guy!
December 14, 2009 at 9:20 pm #48082bivolParticipantyes, they’re nice, although they do seem a bit slow and heavy for a traditional breed…
and maybe you’ll become an ox guy one day, they sure have their charm, that dormant strength you can see in their motion, and their docility and calm despite allthat power. they have something noble around them.i know tastes differ, but i could go for a water buffalo or two, nope, i wouldn’t mind!
December 15, 2009 at 12:15 pm #48132mother katherineParticipantThanks, Bivol. This forum has turned me on to the wonders of youtube. Didn’t know anything about it. Now, I like to watch any vids mentioned here and what I can find of my beloved Icelandic sheep.
oxnunDecember 19, 2009 at 5:40 pm #48083bivolParticipantfound a nice video from france: has two cows of traditional breed in a cart and cultivator and plow. later horses.
notice how high-spirited, for cattle, the cows are…
figure they’re the same breed like those oxen in a vid from france, just more temperament. is that usual?:confused: - AuthorPosts
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