Hello from Germany

[Anonymous]

Hello to all Draft Animal Power friends !

My Name is Ralf, and i work with horses in sideline. I work in agriculture, in vegetables garden, in the forest, and wagon rides with tourists.

In my stables there are German kind of Draft Horse, it

[Gabe Ayers]

Welcome Ralf,

I enjoyed your video. I don’t speak German, but think I heard the word diesel in the report, so I would suspect you are promoting the draft horse as an alternative to diesel.

It looks like a your forecart is ground driven and does a good job driving the tedder. Is this forecart manufactured in Germany?

Do you have any photos/videos of your work in the forest?

Glad you are here, look forward to hearing more about your work.

[jen judkins]

Hi Ralf and welcome. I too thought your forecart was quite nice. Since I’m in the market for buying on for my youngster, can you tell me more about it?

Oh and I have a stupid newbie question for anyone who hays with horses. What happens if the team poops in the hay? Or is there a way to teach them that that is inappropriate? Yeah, I’m blonde!

Jennifer.

[Anonymous]

Jennifer an Jason,

Diesel: yes i promote the draft horse as an alternative for diesel. In Germany we say one horse in the forest can save 30 Liter Diesel a Day (1 Gallone = 3,78541178 Liter) if a horse is working 6 hours a Day.

So we say in 200 days a year, one horse can save 6000 Liters/year
And if a horse works 15 years it save 90.000 Liter in his live.

The forecart is a German manufactured forecart. More you find here http://www.mf-tech.de ! I think this forecart is nearly the same type of forecart as the I&J grounddriven forecart.

Forest Video: look to my website, and press button “Kaltblutkino” here are some video of my work. One about work in Forest. It can bee see by the windows media player, i hope it

[becorson]

Sie sprechen sehr gut Englisch, meiner Meinung nach. (please excuse my very bad German!)
I agree that manure in the hay is not a big problem.

[Anonymous]

Hi becorson. Sie sprechen aber ein sehr gutes Deutsch ! Danke für das Kompliment, es ermuntert mich mehr zu schreiben.

PA, this is a paradise for working with Hosre or other animals. Lot of Amish cummunities, where you get a lot of horse drawn equipment! And many manufactures.

In Germany or better to say in Europe, we have less manufactures for Horse drawn implements. And the old/historic equipment mostly is in bad condition.
The new machines are not built in series, only in piece by piece after order. And so the machine are very expensive.
Modern used equipment is not on the market, because the draft animal scene was dead after world war II !

I hope to see fotos from the animalpowerfielddays next on this sites.

[becorson]

Ralf, you are right that horse-drawn equipment is relatively easy to find in Pa. there are many Amish and Mennonite shops that make and repair it, including custom piece work as you describe. the price is usally quite reasonable, even for custom work, at least i think so. so if there is something you need, let me know and i will see if i can find it for you!
like you, i am hoping to see some pictures from the horse powered field days .
best wishes,
Barbara

[Anonymous]

Hello Barbara, thank you for your offer to look für me in your area. I’m sure it back.

In 2000 I Visit HPD in Kinzers PA, and was at I & J and at WhiteHorse ! It was a verry good experience to see how to work wiht modern horse drawn equipment.

Why do you speak so good german ?

Greetings

Ralf

[becorson]

Ich habe Deutch in der Schule gelernt. Es ist eine schöne Sprache!
In Germany, do you ever use voice commands to turn horses to left or right? In English, teamsters can use the word “gee” to tell the animal to turn right, and “haw” to turn left. I have always wanted to know if similar commands are used in other languages…

[Anonymous]

Viele Menschen die Deutsch lernen sagen, dass es eine schwere Sprache sei. Vor allem weil wir ein der – die – das haben. Im Gegensatz zum Englischen wo es nur ein The gibt.
Ich wusste garnicht, dass man in US in der Schule Deutsch lernt. Ich dachte das sei nur bei den Amischen so !

In Germany, yes we use voice commands. But there is a regionally different in the commands. So the teamsters use ” wista, wischt, hot, hau” an others more. In my region we say “haar” for left, “heut” for right, “brrrrr” for Stop and “jüü or juur” for go on.

[becorson]

Ja i finde Deutsch ziemlich schwer, aber Englisch ist auch nicht leicht, weil es so unregelmässig ist! die Studenten hier im USA haben gewöhnlich das Gelegenheit, eine Sprache zu studieren, aber es ist nicht ein Bedürfnis. Die Merhzahl studieren Spanisch, ich glaube.

In the US and England most people say “whoa” or “ho” to stop a horse or ox but in Norway they make a sound like a trill ” ptrtrtrt ” how do Germans tell a horse to stop?

[Anonymous]

Spanisch ist wohl auch weiter verbreitet als Deutsch. Wird nicht in Südamerika überwiegend spanisch gesprochen ?

To Stop a team or a horse mostly we say: “brrrrr” ! Some use “hau” oder “hiii” ! I in my region use “brrr”

[becorson]

Die Leute in Argentina sprechen manchmal Deutch, glaub’ ich.

[sanhestar]

@becorson 2911 wrote:

In the US and England most people say “whoa” or “ho” to stop a horse or ox but in Norway they make a sound like a trill ” ptrtrtrt ” how do Germans tell a horse to stop?

it’s an old thread but I was intruiged to find the vocal command “ptrtrtrt” in a different context.

In Iceland, they apparently use this command to tell the dogs to move the sheep resp. horses. When I grew up I spent a lot of time on a Iceland horse riding school. They were among the first people that brought the typical Iceland dog to Germany – she worked on Icelandic commands. And whenever a horse wouldn’t move, she got the “ptrtrtrtrt” to make it moving.

As in the meantime the regular riding scene – not so much the draft horses – is influenced by training methods originated in the US, at least the whoa has established itself among the riders.

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