Ideas for new Pioneer equipment

[Simple Living]

I think Roscoe might be on to something here. This product covers many of the ideas listed in this thread up to this point. Now, how do we get this produced in the states?

Gordon

[jac]

Looks a well made piece of kit Roscoe.. The self contained hydraulics and the quick release couplings for the tools warrent more investigation..
John

[dominiquer60]

I like the sounds of it. I will print some info off their website to send to Ohio. Thanks for sharing Roscoe

[near horse]

Man- I thought I had searched every corner of the internet for draft equipment but obviously not! Does anyone know if the univecus unit takes any type of equipment that can attach to a tool bar or is it specifically for their own attachments?

That’s something to consider for Pioneer – It can become really cost prohibitive when you have to buy all the new attachments even though you might already own the same thing of a “different” brand.

Also, ran into this site with some basic designs
http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/fac/sci/eng/research/civil/dtu/pubs/animals/

[dominiquer60]

Good point Geoff,
“UNIVECUS can be used even with tools already available on the market.” I don’t know if that means only European market or the international market. The more types of tools it can handle the better. I was thinking maybe there could be frame options for the type of tools that you want, be it antiquated or modern.

Erika

[Carl Russell]

Just got off the phone with Joe Wengerd (Pioneer Equip.), planning on meeting with them and other Amish manufacturers during a mud season road trip in April, to discuss ways to get more presence at 2010 NEAPFD.

[Robert MoonShadow]

Great doing, Carl!
That toolbar looks good, ‘cept for perhaps the weight; and it looks to be for a team, correct?
I still yearn for a walk-behind unit. :rolleyes:

[near horse]

Robert – Did you see some of that equipment they showed on RH last night (from SDAD)? There was some walk behind stuff – singles etc – some that I’d not seen before.

Also, for some fabricating ideas for donks take a look at that site I posted a couple of lines up. There’re some pdf files with plans for carts (materials lists …..)etc specifically for donkeys (and oxen) – meant for developing countries so not super complicated.

I noticed when googling univecus, one site mentioned FENDT equipment – not sure maybe univecus toolbar setup could handle FENDT attachments?

[Robert MoonShadow]

@near horse 16185 wrote:

Robert – Did you see some of that equipment they showed on RH last night (from SDAD)? There was some walk behind stuff – singles etc – some that I’d not seen before.

Also, for some fabricating ideas for donks take a look at that site I posted a couple of lines up. There’re some pdf files with plans for carts (materials lists …..)etc specifically for donkeys (and oxen) – meant for developing countries so not super complicated.

I noticed when googling univecus, one site mentioned FENDT equipment – not sure maybe univecus toolbar setup could handle FENDT attachments?

Geoff – I’m exploring the site you mentioned…thanks! About the H = no tv!!

[Roscoe]

FENDT Toolcarrier/Tractors are in Europe common for marketgardens and patato farms. If you want to build a toolcarrier in North America, its better when it fit to domestic tools.
Fendt/Acco sell only tractors in USA/Canada.

[dominiquer60]

Thanks everyone I am printing what we have brainstormed to date and sending it to Ohio via CT.
Erika

[Robert MoonShadow]

@dominiquer60 16363 wrote:

Thanks everyone I am printing what we have brainstormed to date and sending it to Ohio via CT.
Erika

Please keep us posted on any feedback you get from them?

{And thank you for your efforts}

[dominiquer60]

Sure will, we’ll see what happens.

[Rustedthrough]

@dominiquer60 15806 wrote:

I think that the target buyer that we talked about for this type of multi-purpose tool was small diverse farms with singles or small teams that require the most use out of a single purchase.
It seems like the thought is to go with a basic 3′ row spacing and have a two wheeled frame inspired by the old International or McCormick Deering cultivators.

Erika,
From a historic perspective, especially in the developping world, tool bar type machines are a risky proposition as found by Jean Nolle and Paul Starkey “perfected yet rejected.” Pioneer will already understand that if the machine serves several purposes which are not done at the same time on the same farm, the interchangeable parts could be invaluable, but, if the same frame lays down plastic or transplants and cultivates the interchange of tools needs to be easy (like the bob-tach system on bobcat skidsteers). I&J has an over the row weeder that accomodates many of your requests, and White Horse has a forecart with a lifting axle, allowing for low or high clearnce as needed. A logging arch/ forecart type frame with an axle slide to balance the load, a wheel lift to adjust hitch height/ clearance for cultivation, with foot stearable wheels to compensate for crooked rows/ horse error, and an infinately variable drawbar to put the wheels in line 1/2 inch out, 1/2 pace out etc from the furrow, would be infinitely useful. Many of us would want two of them, so the cost needs to be in line with the carts which carry many of these features, especially where so much old equipment is available.

[Robert MoonShadow]

Erika ~
Any update on this from Pioneer?

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