McD No.9 Mower Copy

[hardpan99]

@jac 18388 wrote:

Hardpan there is moves in Europe regards building new horsedrawn mowers. I’ll keep you posted when I get more info. Ive gave one of my old mowers to our local college with the remit to design a 21st century version with emphasis on friction reduction,vibration and weight. The teachers and students are really excited by the project… BTW can anyone give me the dimensions of the evener atachment point on the mower pole..a foto would be great.. mine has been messed with over the years and I want to return my 19th century mower to original :D..
John

Jac,

Thanks. Please do keep us posted.

[jac]

This is a document sent to me by Peter Herold from Germany and he gave me permission to share his work here.. it might not relate directly to new mower manufacture but it is a big step in the right direction.. Thanks Peter….
John

[goodcompanion]

@firebrick43 18325 wrote:

So if you wanted an all cast machine, you would have to make patterns(There is a lot of money right there as patterns have to be specifically designed to flow right and allow for shrinkage of molten metal. Ship them over seas, send a representive over seas to ensure quality(if you don’t you wont get good work) and have them shipped back. Port fees are outragoues for small scale items, so you have to have the capitol to cast at least a container load.

You still have to manufacture some sprag clutches, and fabricate/cast the head, bar, and general support system.

Now you have a machine that cost 4000 dollars or more in material/labor, that doesn’t take into account any profit, transportation, or marketing, so you would be north of 6000 dollars.

Even the big three in horse equipment, Pioneer, I&J, and White horse are not making millions and they are selling products with more demand.

Wouldn’t the thing to do be to inquire of International whether the original molds and patterns still exist, and whether they can be bought or leased?

I agree that it is a major, capital-intensive and daunting project. Mowers were so plentiful back in the day that most of us can find acceptable candidates in the trash, so to speak. So demand for a new mower is relatively low. But eventually the trash will be tapped out, so I don’t think the question will go away. Not saying I want to be the one to do it, but if someone was to make a pet project of acquiring rights and patterns to eventually build the McD number 9 before functioning antique mowers become truly scarce, it mightn’t be a terrible idea.

[mitchmaine]

hey john, on your #7, from the very first bolt holding your pole to the mower body, it’s 30″ forward to a bracket bolted to the underside of your pole. attached to it is a clevis with a spring tension, and the pin for your evener is another 4″ forward of that. from the clevis runs a steel rod 28″ long hooked back to the heel casting of the cutter bar. i have a couple here for extra. can’t imagine what it would cost to get it to you. i’ll see if i can’t dig one out for a photo. mitch

[jac]

Thanks Mitch, thats perfect. Just the finishing touch. Im a bit pedantic over draft angles an stuff:rolleyes:..You guys are lucky to have so many good machines and spare parts still..One of those no9s with the rubber tyres and the high gear and a 6ft bar would be like a Rolls Royce for me…
John

[OldKat]

@jac 18406 wrote:

Thanks Mitch, thats perfect. Just the finishing touch. Im a bit pedantic over draft angles an stuff:rolleyes:..You guys are lucky to have so many good machines and spare parts still..One of those no9s with the rubber tyres and the high gear and a 6ft bar would be like a Rolls Royce for me…
John

Pedantic; that is a good word & only the second time in my life that I have actually seen someone use it in context. You get the prize for word of the day. (The check is in the mail 😉 )

[OldKat]

@reb 18189 wrote:

I don’t know anyting about it. Here is the link to the site minprom
Sorry if you all have see this already, but just in case you havn’t I thought I would share it.
Richard

I would think that having these shipped to the US and /or the UK would be far more cost effective than trying to replicate the IHC Mc Deering #9. Might take some modification to get the thing set up for shafts rather than that pole thing on the right side of the single horse, but I am sure it could be done. Wonder if they are going to make a two horse version of this? If this is produced by a German company I bet the engineering and workmanship are first rate.

[jac]

Hey OldKat I’ll watch the mail…now where did I leave that Pioneer catalogue ????:D..Youre right though.. it is a dinky little mower and a 6ft bar version would be good.. tho mabey with grippier tires.. BTW did you ever try out that recipie for the fly repelant with the walnut leaves or is it not fly season yet?..
John

[OldKat]

@jac 18409 wrote:

Hey OldKat I’ll watch the mail…now where did I leave that Pioneer catalogue ????:D..Youre right though.. it is a dinky little mower and a 6ft bar version would be good.. tho mabey with grippier tires.. BTW did you ever try out that recipie for the fly repelant with the walnut leaves or is it not fly season yet?..
John

When you posted that we were pretty well out of our fly season, and I had since forgotten about it. The flies are getting to be a bit of a nuisance, and the walnut trees are fully leaved out now so I think I will give it a shot. Do you remember what forum that was posted in?

[jac]

I think it was in the book review section under “Quest for the original horse whisperers”…let us know if it works out …
John

[R W]

Looks a great mower.
Would like to see something similar with a tractor hitch, PTO drive and a 6/7 ft cut. They are more covenient than a 3pl machine.

[bendube]

RW,
I & J manufacturing makes Ground drive motors that are a little bigger, and also sets them up for trailing or 3 pt hitch pto. I’ve never used one, and only seen it work once, so I can’t comment on it’s quality too much.

Just as predicted in this thread, the riding version is over $5k before shipping.

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