Motorized Forecart on Round Baler?

[gwpoky]

I have a Yanmar out of a refer unit and I have a Tumble bug round bale mover, well on the way. 🙂 We currently hire a neighbor to round bale first crop on a 30 acre field of ours, but if and when he retires from this I would like to be ready. This year we will be haying about 55 acres so we purchased a Heavy duty I&J cart and I&J 9′ mower so the round baler will have to wait until next year, but I would like to start building the cart as I think I can do it without too much expense as I already have the motor. I am not much of an engineer so putting together a plan is the hardest part. I was thinking of using a shorten running gear as the base, build a platform and then go from there.

Thanks for all the input.

[Donn Hewes]

a running gear would distribute the load well, but at the expense of extra weight. Alos when hooked to some equipment this would be difficult to back up. It could even be difficult to back up to hook on to something. Just something to consider. My cart doesn’t back up well, and doesn’t back up with a baler hardly at all. Most all the new carts are two wheeled; except some of the very largest. I think they do this for two reasons, when they build with one axle they are lowering their cost of steel and parts. They have gone so far to include moving axles to keep it balanced, and extra hitch attachments to distribute the load to the equipment being towed. Just hings to think of. If I was setting out to make one today I would make a two wheeled one, and just try hard to get it balanced right. They also often use a handy clutch now that bolts right to the output shaft of the motor. i am not sure were these come from or what they cost, but they replace all the belts and pulleys. Belts and pulleys have worked fine for me. An Amish man, Henry Stolzfus, did a great job with a pivot that engaged and disengaged the PTO, by tightening the belt.

[Mark Cowdrey]

What is a “handy clutch”?
Thanks,
Mark

[mlelgr]

http://www.lancasterfarming.com/classifieds/3167647–Tayloria-clutch—gear-reduct

Hope this link works. It is an add for the type of gear reduction clutches that the Amish use on their power carts. If the link doesn’t work go to Lancasterfarming.com and type PTO clutch in the search box.

[Barw]

I have a 40 hp Kubota diesel engine on my power cart that I made.
I have hydraulic’s and 540 pto on it. Made it on a three wheel frame,
usually pull with two draft mules.Has lots of power and is fairly
quiet.
Barw

[Billy Anderson]

I have a three wheel cart i intend to power up also. Fitting a motor to turn a PTO i can visualize and with a little guidance, possibily manage to achieve this. Hydraulics i cant get my head round! Where would one get plans for such a project?

[Donn Hewes]

the Hydraulics are really pretty simple. Some of the motors for PTO carts have two output shafts, front and back. In that set up the motor can be centered and the rear facing shaft can have clutch set up bolted on. The forward shaft would either go directly to the Hydraulic pump mounted right in front of the motor or be belt driven to a pump mounted just left or right of center. in most cases there is no one / off or engage mechanism. You just have hydraulics when ever the motor is running. Be careful to size the reservoir big enough form the types of farm equipment you want to use. I started with out enough reservoir and seized up a pump when all the fluid went out to the ram.

They often use a reservoir with a pump inside. This would be a good design as it protects the pump from running out of fluid and helps keep cool. There are also common to mount a pump on top of the reservoir but this is where I ran into problems. I added a large filler pipe that stands up above the pump and keeps the pump supplied. I guess the problem was a tiny leak and the pump should run fine but above the reservoir it wouldn’t hold a vacuum to lift the fluid that short distance; that is why I like the pump in the reservoir. After that it would be pretty easy to go to the local tractor place (or on line) for levers, control blocks, and hoses. be sure to put in enough levers and outlets to match the equipment you want to run.

I have foot pedals for Hyd levers and I like them, but I think my builder put them together and I haven’t seen them on other carts. Good luck. Donn

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