Moving Heavy Loads With Horses

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  • #50260
    Carl Russell
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    Here are a few pics from the MOFGA LIF workshop this weekend. I brought my bobsled to show one of the most cost effective ways to move volumes of wood with horses. It was a curvy, mostly uphill trail that crossed a bridge and a mud hole, about 1000 feet in length. We pulled 4 loads in 3 hours, averaging about 350-400 bf. It was excellent work for these two horses, and they showed a lot of heart…even when they got snubbed up they gave their all next try.

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    Carl

    #50261
    Carl Russell
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    A couple more, Carl155692_1700565480393_1425617324_1809291_3090424_n.jpg

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    #50275
    jen judkins
    Participant

    I think your bobsled was the highlight of the weekend. Certainly worth the extra effort to get it there. Thanks, Dan!:D

    Except, I was hoping someone had got your ejection from the logs at the landing on film:eek:

    #50278
    dominiquer60
    Moderator

    I missed this part but glad to see these pictures here, great job!

    It is as close to seeing you Roman riding as it gets:)

    #50262
    Carl Russell
    Moderator

    Per my earlier posts about training and conditioning horses to this work, this trail was curvy, uneven with stumps, humps, and hollows, and was on a steady incline up to the landing, over 800-1000′, so I could not move these loads in one long pull.

    I asked the horses to start the load, and pulled 30-50′, then stop. This way I could assess how easily it was moving, and how ambitious they were. Then from there I would travel anywhere from 50′-100′, stopping at opportune places where they would have an easier time starting the load. Each time I asked, they would feel each other on the evener, then push and lift together. Before they tired too much, I would stop them and give them a few minutes to breathe. This way they are prepared to give me all they can each time, because they are not being run into the ground, and they have confidence in my asking them to give it their all.

    Carl

    #50252
    Gabe Ayers
    Keymaster

    Sorry for entering this thread late. I think the concept of stopping the horses when everything is going just right is one of the hardest things for new teamsters to learn. By stopping them when they are doing well or exactly what you want, (including choosing a place that gives them a good starting place next time) – is positive reinforecement or using whoa as a reward. It has been said the the greatest reward for any beast of burden is cessation of demand. They will try hard when the think they can do it and get clear signals from the driver. It takes a stout team to move weight like these loads and a good hand to give the signals to start and stay on the load. They must be built up to this level of performance, it doesn’t happen by accident. Great efforts by great horseman and great horses.

    I have to comment that the comrodiary among the participants is deep and meaningful, even a moving emotional experience as expressed by Scott G. I experienced the same thing a couple of weeks ago when Simon Lenihan visited for a week here in Virginia and we toured the region checking in on several of the HHFF practitioners. So much in common regardless of location and we all should benefit from knowing we are not alone out here in the woods with our horses, although that is exactly where most of us want to be. Paradox, yet inspirational. LIF is indeed one of those experiences and I would love to be there some day if invited again. Great job, perpetuating the culture as only the real thing can do. Kudos to all of you.

    Sorry, I have new computer here and don’t have spell check working yet, although everything new is supposed to be better….

    Carry on good folks, please also excuse my repeating myself, seems to happen with age…

    Best Regards,

    #50287
    mitchmaine
    Participant

    hey carl, i have been looking at all or most of the pictures of your bobsled, but can’t make out how you bind the logs down. could you give a brief description?

    mitch

    #50263
    Carl Russell
    Moderator

    [IMG]file:///Users/carlrussell/Library/Caches/TemporaryItems/moz-screenshot.png[/IMG][IMG]file:///Users/carlrussell/Library/Caches/TemporaryItems/moz-screenshot-1.png[/IMG]Mitch, I have attached an article that I wrote for SFJ, but I also posted in another thread that Geoff started about bobsled…. “Guess Who” http://www.draftanimalpower.com/showthread.php?t=3591

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    There are diagrams showing the way I chain the logs down.

    Carl

    #50264
    Carl Russell
    Moderator

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    #50288
    mitchmaine
    Participant

    thanks carl

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