saw scabbard

[Mark Cowdrey]

Has anyone made or seen/used a design of a fairly simple chainsaw scabbard/slot that mounts on a piece of equipment, probably made out of steel/alum with some sort of plastic lining?
My Google/Utube findings so far have been pretty minimal.
Thanks,
Mark

[Lanny Collins]

Mark, here is one that locks. It is a little pricy but it can be mounted anywhere. I did not see it but it mentions a master lock is provided with it on a different site. From the link (go to the bottom of the page) it looks like it tightens against the bar to keep it from slipping out of the scabbard. Product is called “byte tyte”. Looks like a cheaper version would be just to take a slice off a log and cut with the end of the bar inward then drill holes on the outer portion of the slice of wood for mounting. Just google “byte tyte” for more info as well.

http://clearwatersawshop.com/logging_gear.html

[Does’ Leap]

Mark:

I plunged into a 6×6 and use that as my scabbard. I drilled a couple of holes in one part of my arch and welded up a bracket and fastened the scabbard to the arch with wood screws. Works great. Here are some pics….

http://www.draftanimalpower.com/showthread.php?2536-Customized-Logging-Arch&highlight=CUSTOMIZED+LOGGING+ARCH

George

[Mark Cowdrey]

Lanny ,
I’ve seen that type but am looking for something that is “drop in and pull out”.
George,
Looking for something a little more elegant to incorporate onto the next generation of the you-know-what (PBFWA).
I’ve got a couple ideas but figured why re-invent the wheel if you could steal, pardon me, appropriate it!
Thanks for the ideas guys,
Mark

[Oxhill]

I think the lower one at this link might be what you are looking for.

Looks like it is just a simple mountable scabbard to hold your saw in its factory plastic scabbard.

I have no experience with it.

http://www.psep.biz/store/universal_atv_chainsaw_rack.htm

[Scott G]

Mark, I use exactly what you are describing. Bouncing around in the back of the truck is hard on a saw. So, quite a while back I fashioned a scabbard that is made out of 3/8 plywood laminated together with a ~ 1 1/2 linear spacer of the same material that runs the length of both sides. On the top I mounted 2 x 2s horizontally for the dawgs to sit on. The scabbard is secured on the headache rack of my truck and stores the saw vertically. The dawgs take most of the shock going down the road. I haven’t had to replace anything on the scabbard and it has lasted several years. I’ll get some pics in the next day or so when I’m at the truck in the daylight. I’m going to make one of the same type to mount to the side on the front guard of my arch.

Scabbards for bucket trucks would work fine but they’re expensive and plastic. Anytime I can make anything I use out of wood, I’m on it…

Along the same thought, My friend & I also built a storage rack for the saws in our forestry shop. Most convienient way I’ve found to store saws by far; vertical, stacked, and out of the way. Takes up a lot less space and they’re secure. I’m close to the shop today and will get a pic of the rack to post here.

Storing and transporting vertical is by far the best way to go.

[Carl Russell]

My feedback is that I would consider making a small tray-like tool box. I have made scabbards on my logging conveyances before, and I have not found that drawing the saw out is an easy maneuver. The saw chain will invariably get snagged etc. It certainly is a good way to carry a saw into the woods, but getting on and off, felling, delimbing, and bucking logs I want a secure AND easy way to keep my saw accessible.

I have found that a tray-like tool box, with 4″ high sides affords me enough room for both saw and gas/oil containers. The saw is secure (I go over some pretty crazy terrain and have never lost the saw) and when I stop and want to use the saw, it is right there in front of me with the handle easy to grab, and nothing the restrict the bar……

Just a thought.

Carl

[Mark Cowdrey]

Thanks all for the thoughts and observations.
I probably should have said this up front, I am contemplating adding one to the PiggyBack Arch in order to make it a more complete tool. The tray on Les’s cart is excellent for carrying and accessing not only a saw but other gear. I have a plywood scabbard mounted on the right side of the dash/guard that works OK but, as Carl mentioned, is awkward getting the saw in & out. I have even contemplated building a new “dashboard” that is straight instead of curved so that a tool box could be incorporated simply. Whatever it is, it needs to be simple to fab, fairly inexpensive, rugged, versatile, useful and good looking! I have thought of wood but am reluctant because of life span issues. I’ve got 2 or 3 doodle sketches of different possibilities, including a “hanging” arrangement. We’ll see.
Again, thanks for the input.
Mark

[Scott G]

There is definitely an accessibility advantage when transporting the saw in a box. Before I went with a vertical scabbard on the truck I had a box bolted to the back of the bed. It was about the depth of Carl’s, the exception being that it held 4 saws and kerfs were sawn in one side to secure the bars. While it helped to keep the saws from taking a walkabout in the bed, the concussive force on the bottom of the saw was still there and often caused issues like premature leaks in the fuel tank seam, loose wiring & intake boots, etc. Granted, bouncing down the road in a flatbed truck is not the same as the slow speed of an arch going down the trail. I’ve seen Carl’s layout on his Barden cart and it fits perfectly as it was designed that way. I can’t think of a good place on my Brown’s arch where a box wouldn’t be in the way. I would imagine you’re using a Pioneer forecart with your piggy back, Mark. In my mind I’m trying to envision a handy place for the box that would work for you… I can already hear Carl’s response, once again reciting the benefits of the Barden cart… :p I believe when I mount the scabbard to the arch I’ll cant it at a 45 to 22 ½ degree angle to make it easier to remove vs. pulling it out straight vertical which would be awkward for quick/easy access. I’ve found that when the chain brake is engaged the “snagging” of the chain in the scabbard is pretty much a non-issue. What it boils down to is whatever works well for each individual logger. The options are really only limited by your creativity…
Pics of our saw storage rack out in the shop are attached and I’ll follow up with some of the truck scabbard in a couple of days.

[Mark Cowdrey]

Scott,
Agree on the chain brake snagging issue in my experience. Also weighing the vertical vs. angled orientation, ease of storing/removing vs “compact” “footprint”.

Carl,
When you get a chance, what are the other dimensions of the box & would you change any? Ht. from the ground? A;; steel construction? Solid bottom?
I’m thinking a box might bolt on the existing dash right above the pole.
Thanks,
Mark

[Carl Russell]

I’ll get exact dimensions later, but the box is made of 1/2 hardwood bracketed by steel, with a solid wooden bottom. If it had expanded steel mesh for the bottom it would probably be a bit better, dirt and moisture falling through. My 18″ bar extends beyond the sides, so the wooden edge is better as it takes some wear from and doesn’t dull the saw like steel would. I am going to bolt on some old felling wedges for added wear-life…. the wood wears out and has to be replaced.

The other thing I really like about the tray-box is that I can grab the saw from either side of the cart….

Scott, you are right, each their own, and something like a tray-box has to be designed into the rig, whereas a scabbard can just be added where it is convenient.

Carl

[Carl Russell]

@Carl Russell 32957 wrote:

I’ll get exact dimensions later, ….

10″ x 31″ inside dimensions, just wide enough for the saw to fit in without too much slop.

Carl

[PhilG]

Scott –
Nice quiver! its rare to see another double brander. What to you do with the log wizzards ? i havent seen one of those in years.
Phil

[Scott G]

@PhilG 32996 wrote:

Scott –
Nice quiver! its rare to see another double brander. What to you do with the log wizzards ? i havent seen one of those in years.
Phil

Thanks, Phil. That’s the saw shop at the agency that I work for as a forester. When I started with these folks they were in the process of moving into a new building. Since I had free rein, I built the saw shop I always dreamed of. We are completely outfitted with any tool we need to tear down and rebuild an saw we need to as well as everything else that goes with trying to keep up to 20 young people in saws; a challenge to say the least.

The agency started out with Stihls, I’ve been very sucessful at introducing Husky. As a matter of fact we have many more Husky’s than what you see, they are out in the field. The vast majority of the Stihls are in the shop…:cool:

One of the main fellas I work with made a sign for the shop – “We work on Stihls but we run Husqvarnas” :rolleyes:

They used the log wizards, before I got there, to debark bark beetle infested trees that were to remote to remove. Painful…

[Scott G]

Attached are the pics I said I would take of the scabbard I have on my truck. It works great for my purposes and, regarding the comment about wood for durability, this scabbard is going on 6-7 years old and has lived outside it’s whole life. I like wood because it is so much softer than the materials that the saw is made of and absorbs shock fairly well. You can see how the dogs jab into the top. There is also a cable lock that I can run through the handlebar to secure it to the headache rack while I’m not around. I’ve had one saw leave the bed of my truck before while I was parked at the corner cafe. I’d rather that not happen again.

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