tipping chute

[Neil Dimmock]

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[Gabe Ayers]

Wow Neil,

That is industrial hoof care for equine for sure. I have seen this used for cattle for years but never seen anyone put a horse in one.

I have also seen lots of folks use shoeing stocks for horses.

I have also heard of horses in shoeing stocks sort of freak out and give up. I have read that being prey animals creates some unusual behavior in conditions of complete subduing. Given that a prey animal instinctual evolutionary process includes the reality of being caught by a predator (s) they have developed an ability to voluntarily expire = die. When this completely restrained prey animals gives up it is a way to avoid the horror of actually being eaten alive….by a predator.

I have heard of this happening in shoeing stocks, where a horse would just collapse and stop breathing and die. No beating or physical stimulus brings them out of that condition. The only immediate remedy is electrical shock, such as a shot prod or a stun gun. That form of serious jolt will bring them back to fight some more and would save their lives in case their instincts tell them to give up and die.

Has anyone else heard of this voluntarily dieing event happening?

This method certainly looks allot easier that having 50 that are broke to stand quiet and have their feet trimmed traditionally. There are many folks using the high speed grinder with a body putty wheel on it for trimming. The horses have to be well trained for that while standing.

Thanks for sharing man. Hope your new house is coming along, since winter is coming and the folks in Vermont are getting a taste of it this morning according the national weather report…

[Iron Rose]

Neil

Thanks for posting the video of the trimming chute. Sure wish I would of had one years ago (knees and back would be in better shape). Do you put shoes on in the chute also? Heard of a guy in Montana or Wyoming useing a tip chute to shoe pack strings , but have never seen one used.

I have used many different types of shoeing stocks over the years some good some not. One problem is useing stocks is slow work and a lot of horses fight being tied down. Never had a horse expire in one ,but some do get banged up.

Thanks again for sharing if I was a little younger I would sure look into getting one.

Dan

[Neil Dimmock]

@Biological Woodsman 2633 wrote:

Wow Neil,

That is industrial hoof care for equine for sure. I have seen this used for cattle for years but never seen anyone put a horse in one.

I have also seen lots of folks use shoeing stocks for horses.

I have also heard of horses in shoeing stocks sort of freak out and give up. I have read that being prey animals creates some unusual behavior in conditions of complete subduing. Given that a prey animal instinctual evolutionary process includes the reality of being caught by a predator (s) they have developed an ability to voluntarily expire = die. When this completely restrained prey animals gives up it is a way to avoid the horror of actually being eaten alive….by a predator.

I have heard of this happening in shoeing stocks, where a horse would just collapse and stop breathing and die. No beating or physical stimulus brings them out of that condition. The only immediate remedy is electrical shock, such as a shot prod or a stun gun. That form of serious jolt will bring them back to fight some more and would save their lives in case their instincts tell them to give up and die.

Has anyone else heard of this voluntarily dieing event happening?

This method certainly looks allot easier that having 50 that are broke to stand quiet and have their feet trimmed traditionally. There are many folks using the high speed grinder with a body putty wheel on it for trimming. The horses have to be well trained for that while standing.

Thanks for sharing man. Hope your new house is coming along, since winter is coming and the folks in Vermont are getting a taste of it this morning according the national weather report…

No never even had one pass out, its just an old wife’s tail, this fellow does about 4000 head a year for the last 12 years and never lost one or had one suffer an ill effect or even freak out. I watched them do over 200 head at a PMU farm before I put my top horses in it. Its over so fast they don’t even have time to struggle much.

[Neil Dimmock]

@Iron Rose 2636 wrote:

Neil

Thanks for posting the video of the trimming chute. Sure wish I would of had one years ago (knees and back would be in better shape). Do you put shoes on in the chute also? Heard of a guy in Montana or Wyoming useing a tip chute to shoe pack strings , but have never seen one used.

I have used many different types of shoeing stocks over the years some good some not. One problem is useing stocks is slow work and a lot of horses fight being tied down. Never had a horse expire in one ,but some do get banged up.

Thanks again for sharing if I was a little younger I would sure look into getting one.

Dan

Yes you can put shoes on in the chute but it takes a little practise to shoe on the slant

[Neil Dimmock]

All my horses are foot broke and stand for the grinder!! this is no excuse for not training your horses right but the best farriers can do 10, 12 at best in a day and would need a day or two before the would return so by the time they were done it would be time to start on the first again. once done I put shoes on who I like and do some corrective triming if I like,
the disk on the grinder in made for hoof with changeable carbide teeth and a tungsten body, nothing sloppy or second rate about it
this is how we do it when you have more than a team and it keeps the cost down to 20.oo ahead and a bonus is its a safe place to do any vet work

[Does’ Leap]

Is that just a standard grinder? What kind of wheel is used?

George

[Neil Dimmock]

It is a standard side grinder with a ROTO CLIP blade on it here’s a link to there site,
http://www.rotoclipinc.com/categories.php?PHPSESSID=0576d25205f79068453701ced9ad8c19

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