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- May 24, 2010 at 12:06 pm #41663
Ed Thayer
ParticipantCan anyone explain to me in common terms why my horse is so affected by three little shots? Rabies, EEE, and west nile.
These shots puts Oz out of commissin for 4 days. He is lethargic, mopey, and clearly uncomfortable.
I am not looking for a debate on wheather to give shots, just if anyone knows what the reaction is from.
Ed
May 24, 2010 at 12:31 pm #60194Gabe Ayers
KeymasterSometimes vaccinations make horses and people feel pretty poorly. I remember the first flu shot I got in the Navy made me nearly pass out in the elevator after leaving the infirmary. It just seems that individuals react differently to these injections and usually they get over them as the body develops antibodies for the particular disease they are vaccinated against.
Once they get over the immunization put them back to work again. It is possible that they had never been vaccinated and this may be why they reacted to it this time.
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May 24, 2010 at 3:59 pm #60195jen judkins
ParticipantEd, I have a horse with Uveitis and with every vaccine it wants to flare up. I’ve managed him by only giving one vaccine at a time and by minimizing his vaccines in general. I also would consider pre-treating with a bute the morning of the vaccine.
As to why he reacts….vaccines are intense immuno-modulators. Means they mess with your immune system to trick it into building targeted cells…sort of a little army waiting for these viruses to enter the body. Just like people, if your immune function is in perfect working order, you don’t feel the immunologic activity going on. If you’re older or sick or have some underlying immune dysfunction (like my gelding’s uveitis), the vaccine instigates a cascade of events cellularly that tip you over the edge and you get sick.
How old is Oz? I only do rabies and EWT for my older horses. And I only do them every other year. Good Luck. Jen.
May 24, 2010 at 6:35 pm #60198ParticipantThanks Jen,
That makes some sense to me. Not sure his exact age, but between 12 and 14 years old. I don’t know if he has an underlying ailment.
May 24, 2010 at 9:32 pm #60196Participant@highway 18516 wrote:
I don’t know if he has an underlying ailment.
If I remember correctly, Oz came out of a rescue situation, so who knows what his health history is. But I wouldn’t assume he is sick in some way, just sensitive. I tell my patients…we are all born with a immune ‘bank account’ and genes that dictate how much ‘money’ you get. When the money is gone, you get sick. Some of us and some poor horses, just weren’t very rich to begin with(or lived a hard life and spent what they had too quickly). Sorry if the analogy doesn’t read well:D
Out to mow…
May 25, 2010 at 6:25 pm #60199ParticipantJen,
That makes perfect sense to me. He feels better each day, but his apetite still is not all there.
Ed
May 27, 2010 at 7:14 am #60197sanhestar
Participantalso, with every shot you give you add to the thiomersal (quicksilver) and aluminium load in the body (both heavy metals). Some animals react allergic/sensitive to other adjuvants (antibiotics or formaldehyd) in the vaccine or to the vaccine itself (being foreign protein).
Every shot also “chews up” the body’s reserves on vitamin C and make it more succeptible to common ailments.
And to look at it from a homoeopathic/holistic view: you introduce pathogens to the body by bypassing all of the body’s immune defense systems (starting with skin, then mucosa, then lymph nodes) and therefore hit the immune system “where it lives”.
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