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- November 6, 2011 at 2:06 pm in reply to: Marketing as a horselogger for more than just timber extraction… #69300Gabe AyersKeymaster
To Carl’s question, I did charge different hourly rates for different tasks. Because I was driving 3 hours round trip to and from Grand Isle, my felling/skidding with the horses was $40/hr. She did board the team there for part of the job which made things work for me financially. When I worked with Michelle on her team harness, rigging, teaching, etc. I charged $25/hr. For cutting firewood to length I charged $30/hr. and when the splitter was running (which I don’t own and had to barter to use) I charged $40/hr. If this job had been much closer to home all these rates would have been $5 less per hour. When I added up all the costs for me, especially the fuel, on most days I came out fairly close to the same net I get when I am in the woods charging by the thousand ($175-$225/mbf). I was trying to get the net to be very at least in the same ballpark, so that was good. Even though the finances were not a big issue for the landowner, I do want to be fair with my rates and at the same time ensure that is worth my while to make the trip each day.-Brad
Gabe AyersKeymasterDo you still need more teams for that workshop. I might be able to get down there, but would have to check a few calendar things…let me know if you decide you want more horses and I will see what I can do.
-BradGabe AyersKeymasterI am also insured for liability in VT, and my rates are in the same ballpark as mentioned by Missy. I find that about half of my clients want a COI and the other half don’t care one bit. It is worth shopping around, though you will likely find that there are very limited number of carriers willing to write a logging policy, especially one that involves working outside a protective machine cab on the ground with a saw and horses. I have mine written so that it also coves me for backhoe work, which brings down my premiums a bit.
-BradGabe AyersKeymasterThat time is good for me, so I will be on. Thanks.
-BradGabe AyersKeymasterHi there, Sunday is fine with me.
Gabe AyersKeymasterAs one of the few horse loggers around who carries commercial logging liability insurance, just thought I would add my cent and a half here. Ethan is right that most commercial policies would cover the loggers work at such an event. However, there are two issues that I see. First, many folks do not carry such a policy at all – I think Carl is one but you will have to check with him. Second, my policy covers that landowner for accidents that may occur so that I cannot hold that owner liable for damage I incur but I am not sure it would protect the landowner from suits from an event participant if they were to get injured at the event. So, this is an issue we need to look at more closely.
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Gabe AyersKeymasterJean, Thanks for getting the site squared away this am. I hope everything went well today. Best wishes, Kevin
Gabe AyersKeymasterThanks Jen and Jean, it’s back and works fine, Kevin
Gabe AyersKeymasterI know your working on it, thanks for that. But it’s still the same, not able to view home page, signed in or not. I was able to see it earlier yesterday. Good luck, Kevin
Gabe AyersKeymasterI’ve got the same problem here. I keep getting the “don’t have permission” banner. Kevin
Gabe AyersKeymasterI also agree that Mark’s suggestion is a sound one. I know I would have a tough time keeping track of who joined when, especially when our membership numbers begin to increase. Thanks one and all for the work on this issue.
-BradGabe AyersKeymasterThis should work!
Gabe AyersKeymasterThanks y’all it was a good one here for me. Got to work in the woods most of the day and had a wonderful dinner with local staymen apple pie and vanilla bean ice cream. I am impressed by Jennifer taking the lines on the group too. Good luck with that new challenge, the group is fortunate to have so many folks in NE that are committed to this culture. Keeping this community of interest growing is no easy feat.
Gabe AyersKeymasterWow, that tool does not look burly enough for regular use with animals. I have a go-devil I built, which I mostly use with a single horse for large single logs, and it is locust and steel – heavy and durable. When built right, a go-devil is a super tool.
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