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Just a thought .. but would a pulling collar help with preventing sore shoulders ? would the fact that these collars seem to cover a larger area help distribute the load more ? I have only seen these collars in fotos because we dont get them here…. so if it seems a daft question that is the reason:o…
JohnjacParticipantIxy the only down side I can see is I wouldnt have to keep draft horses.!! no hay to make, no manure to spread, no plowing or clipping to do:eek::).. what date are you planning that open day ?..
JohnjacParticipantHi Ed.. its funny you mentioned that page but i found it after talking with you all about mobstocking.. awwsome page with a ton of info and as you say ..inspiring… my only reservations were the fact the cattle couldnt roam as such. I wonder if it could be incorperated into a farm rotation though..12 hrs on the high stocking rate field then 12 hrs on another field ?…
JohnjacParticipantHey Mitch your ancestors certainly put up a heck of a fight..those redcoats were bullying on both sides of the pond…its interesting to note that in the war between the states a very high % of the confederate army was made up of Scots… our boys fought damn hard over here too but were sold down the river by the landlords and clan chiefs..same things been going on ever since it seems…BTW there was a John Morton that signed the Declaration of Independance ….
JohnjacParticipantI may have to re think the deer hair pads.. when mine get saturated they go realy flat near the bottom 1/3..that was why i changed to the plastic lined ones… or could it be that we have inferior pads ? getting really good draft horse stuff over here is difficult.. I dont think I’v seen the felt ones advertised here..
JohnjacParticipantHi Erik.. I had a slight chaffing on old Tyde when he was in the hay turner but have to say the swelling was only small. I re checked his collar and found it was a tad big..my fault as I hadnt checked often enuf with the rush of hay making and he had obviously changed shape as the season went on…. I adjusted the ratchets on the hames and tightened the bottom strap. He finished the hay with no further problems. His pad is of the plastic lined variety but I wonder if the creases in yours may be causing the problem ? I have both the deer hair and plasic lined but have to say I prefer the plastic lined ones although they certainly dont absorb sweat..
JohnjacParticipantHey Charlie dont feel so bad… We in Scotland only recently got our own government after 300yrs… now you would think the 1st days debates would be something of national importance like unemployment, health, economy environment..or heaven forbid.. even agriculture !!! but oooohhh no !!! they spent the whole 1st day of government debating whether to ban fox hunting and if homosexuals should be allowed to marry !!!!!:mad:.. talk about wasting tax money…
JohnjacParticipantRight on !!! Well said:…. the French farmers are great at “civil disobedience” and dont stand for any governmental crap…
JohnjacParticipantHi.. Puting your wheel in the creek will unfortunatly only be a temporary solution. What actualy happens with these old wheels is the tyre/rim gets rolled bigger as well as the wood shrinking slightly. I remember my grandfather saying they used to drape wet sacks over the wheels or do as you sugest and roll them into the duck pond but either way sooner or later they had to go to the blacksmith for a “cut and shut” job.. effectively cut a small piece out and weld it again then reheat it and shrink it on again
JohnjacParticipantWe had weather like that over here this year too.. I realy need something more than the turner that I have..it does a great job of turning but doesnt ted as such.. in a recent SFJ there was a foto of a European tedder converted to ground drive along the lines of the I&J rotary rake. he had usd the wheels that it normaly ran on up front and the small tractor type wheels suported the machine and the gears to turn it. He had a seat mounted on top…. Keep us posted with the hitch cart idea. I have an old mower but when I looked at converting it to Mitch’s idea it was going to turn the pto the wrong way ???..
JohnjacParticipantCan these cutter bars be driven too fast ? I ask because the old Albion mower I have works great at a steady pace.. if its going to plug it will do it when either the horses slow down or oddly if they break into a jog ?? I just wondered if there is an optimum speed for these knives… or am I just going to have to buy a no.9…
JohnjacParticipantHey Donn thats some really great fotos.. is the tedder home built ? neat operation you have there and wonderfull scenery…
JohnjacParticipantCertainly sounds like the sustainable farmers dream.. the only issue I would say is that you would need to be 100% sure your fields were clear of ragwart and any other poison plant. Would cattle and horses not be sort of forced to eat it towards the end of the grazing day ? An interesting concept though and if I can get away from that combine for a day i would like to visit on that open day you planned Ixy.. BTW OldKat did you ever get the chance to try out that recipe for the fly repelent? or did it prove to be a load of croc:D..
JohnjacParticipantIxy the mob stocking idea sounds exactly what the native Americans did with the buffalo to create new pasture.. they would select an area and wait till the grass was mature then chase a huge herd of buffalo/bison over the area..usually in a rainy season.. this would create the same effect. Nothings really new is it..
When you move the herd onto the next strip are they kept off the area they have just left ? Also does this system do away with having to plow out old, tired pasture ?
JohnjacParticipantMark you’ll need to check the timing out before you put more hay thru.. sounds like the chain has jumped but the ram stop should have came in to play..unless its siezed ?? or a bit of wood or something blocked the slots in the plunger.. its always a nervy experience starting to bale again after they swallow the needles .. good luck….
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