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Thank you all for your kind words.. My wife has done me a poem for her.. will post it in the relevent thread later.. John

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Hello.. welcome to the best group of people .. lots of info on here. I am keen to find out more about your draft horses… best wishes ..John

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Thank you for your kind thoughts and words you kind people, one and all. This forum is the best and I am so proud to be considered a part of it… John

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Always great when they take up the lines George…looks nicely settled to me.. my Caitlyn is pretty cool at handling a team too .. John

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Jeeeeezz… you guys really need to try West of Scotland in winter !!!! mud, rain, sleet, mud, wet snow , mud… did i mention the mud ?? got a couple of days frost now tho but only minus 5 and will probly be gone by saturday… John

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Hi Mink… I sure wish i did own these 2 horses but that honour goes to Simon Lenihan.. No bits and both can be driven though the woods pretty much on voice alone if needed.. It doesnt get cold like minus 40 but it is wet.. a lot !!!.. The web site for the guy who makes these is http://www.osterbysmedja.se

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Here is a couple of fotos of yours truly having a shot with Simon Lenihans 8 wheeler… this is one seriously awesome piece of kit and made even better by Simons stallion Sultan between the shafts… the conditions were wet with snow between the showers…

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Ok thats the harness covered pretty well guys … what about those peaked collars though ???.. were those common workaday collars or was this foto mabey of some big event and these were more showy than normal.. Scotland had these types and were often used every day… John

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This was what i kinda thot but its the big guys that could help.. I had the idea that if horse hogging could be put on their approved list for environmently sustainable projects I had wondered if these guys could top up the logging job to make it closer with the mechanical men on price… just a thought …..John

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yea…interesting… but not to me !!!! all that happens with this is more local farmers lose out as per usual …

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Great foto Carl… are those collars the high topped kind we have in Scotland by any chance or is that a local design ?? John

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Mitch there is a pulp mill not far and a paper mill at Irvine so in that respect there is a steady stream of logging trucks on the road.. none of that helps the horse job though…Most of the Scots pine over here end up at 40 to 60ft I guess… Scott that forwarder is as good in the flesh as it looks in the fotos.. some really neat features.. Simon said they have a heated footplate with ..he thinks.. the exaust.. the 4 wheels on the rear are oil driven and can make a huge diffrence when brought in to play.. John..

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Hey Mitch… Simon will be the best guy to give the details but I do know the timber industry is on its ass over here.. Sitca is king up here in Scotland. The place Simon is working here is a mansion house and it has some really nice Sequoia, Oak, Ash, Beech and Scots pine..I forgot to ask but I think the stand he was in is silver fir ????? not too sure on that tho.. Im not sure on the Deal either Mitch but I do know it must have been a cheaper timber because I remember reading it was often used as a lining for waggon sides on the inside..I meant to ask a lot more questions but was busy trying to figure out how the hell a 14.2 horse was able to pull loads my Clydes would balk at ???

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Tyler I used to be confused to hell about the debate on this… seems to me the belly backer is a lot more forgiving in regards to seting up…. however… from speaking with folks on here it seems the d ring is the dogs doo dahs..but a bit more critical in setting up.. i hope more knowlegable people kick in here .. i am keen to try it out myself… John

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Hi Paul welcome aboard.. you will find a wealth of info on here from both horse and oxen people so good luck and have fun.. and a happy new year when it comes around… John

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