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Joshua Kingsley
Participant@Carl Russell 11222 wrote:
We will not make it as long as we’re afraid to work together, or interact in a free manner. What ever happened to personal responsibility???
Carl
What happend is they started awarding millions for spilling hot coffee in your lap. The crooked get rich and those who are willing to work are the ones who suffer. It really is too bad that we are unable to sign off and have it standup if somthing happens. On that note I found out the hard way about written contracts and logging. The land owner still owes me LOTS of $$…. best of luck to all of you in the woods and fields.
JoshParticipantMy horses used to move up a step at a time when I gave the command to step up. I was using this often while pitching manure into the spreader from a pile. An old logging horse I owned would take up the tugs when given the command to step up or when the lines were tightened. They would never move after tightening the tugs until given the proper command or a “kiss” after the lines were tight. Those systems worked well for me in the past. Now to get the ponies to do the same thing and I’ll be happy:rolleyes:.
JoshParticipant@CharlyBonifaz 10963 wrote:
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why not take them both on a birthday trip; just so that the little one can get a breath early on at what’s going on …..They went last year although he wasn’t born yet. I do alot with him out in the barn and around the animals. She was planning a party for her family I think. Her other boy who is 5 is mad at me for selling the draft horses last year. I have pics of him driving the team tedding hay when he was 4. Jasper is already in love with the cows at 10 months and when I am leading my bulls he is saying Up Up when I talk to them to get them going. I think he may be a teamster yet..
JoshParticipantThose spread really well. I have one that I used with my horses that I lined with 1/2 inch plywood I have lined the sides as they had holes though I would like to compleatly rebuild it soon. Good luck with yours and happy spreading. Josh
ParticipantThanks for the advice, I was hoping to go to NEAPFD though it does present a bit of a sticky situation… My little boy turns one on the 16th so if I don’t want to get killed by his mother I may have to skip this year. Josh
Participant@mink 10929 wrote:
i can pick her feet up for a few seconds while she’s standing in the stall ,once or twice then she wont pick them up . the stock seems to scare her when she knows she cant get away or put her leg down .. thanks for the replies , as you say maybe if i try it more she’ll relax. further note the people before really neglected her feet so i guess its maybe to be expected for a while.
Has this mare foundered? or is she sore on any of her feet? that was the case with the big mare I had. Some times the pain part will cause some reaction in the stocks because they know that they will have to support thier weight even if it hurts. that seemed to be the main part of the problem with the mare I had for a while. Out of couriosity what kind of mare is she and when did you get her? Josh
ParticipantI had a big mare that did this so I got some tubes of seditive from the local tractor supply and that helped take the edge off so to speek. Then it is just lots of time and easy talking and slow progress till I could work with her easily. It took a real good farrier and lots of patience to get her shod the first several times.
Hopefully somone with more experiance will have other suggestions.
JoshParticipant@near horse 10827 wrote:
Hi mstacy,
Do you think that the difference in temperment btwn the dairy calves and the Devons was breed related (I know Drew Conroy has some rankings on cattle temperment in his book) or due to the fact that the dairy calves were bucket babies and handled/accustomed to human contact more than the Devons (I assume they were w/ momma on grass). Or maybe a bit of both? I’d be interested to hear what you think.
If I recall from a previous thread the hefier and bull that matt has were also devons… I could easily be wrong though. I think that well socialized calves would be easier to train unless they aremade into disrespectful brats. Though I am very new to oxen (read got my first bulls yesterday..)and have mainly delt with horses.
JoshParticipantWe use sawdust in our barn for our cattle, and I have used straw and shavings for my horses in the past. Hay tends to mat and I have even used shredded paper but that seems to take a really long time to break down. One big question is what do you have for livestock? Cattle manure is higher in Nitrogen than Horses, and Chicken or poultry is higher yet. If you have a mix you may not have too much of an imbalance but I have never really studied up on the subject either. I just figure the compost is ready for the garden when it is crumbly, black, full of worms, and no longer smells.
Joshua
ParticipantI’ll agree that the 2×4 method is a pain. Northern has a couple of diffrent options though you better sit down when you read the prices. I think they run about $200 per section. I am considering building some form of ladder setup out of steel for my mill.
Best of luck JoshParticipant@countryboy 10750 wrote:
how much do bull calves cost?
short answer is anywhere from Free to expensive… here in the Rutland VT area.
I had some milking shorthorn bulls I sold for 200 ea. they were a week old and perfectly matched out of full sisters and sired by the same bull. I have had other farms here willing to give me all the dairy bull calves I want. expecially Jerseys are cheep if not free because they are costing money to feed and have little to no value at the sale barn.
Josh
ParticipantIf I’m at home I like to unharness and put them in thier stalls or in a small turn out paddock. They have acess to water in either situation and some hay for roughage. In the woods or away from home I like to allow my horses to have water as often as I can. I try to keep a tank in the trailer that is full of fresh clean water and will often drive the team over to a small tank to get a few sips if they want after a hitch or two. That is just the way that I was taught. I do appreciate the comments by other more accomplished draftspeople so thanks all for your input.
Drive safe – Josh
ParticipantThank you for sharing that wonderful segment. It is always nice to see young people passionate about working draft horses.
wishing you all the best, may your logs be clean and the skid trails clear,
JoshParticipantHow did you decide on the bin dimensions? I would like to have a rough idea on the storage area that would be needed for my animals in the future. The roof is a good idea, my one hesitation may be the need to add water in the future for composting? I guess the moisture would dependant on the material? Any info would be appreciated thaks josh
ParticipantShould this just include those who are already doing this or should it include young people who wish to follow in your hoof prints so to speak?
I would like some ideas from those who are out there doing this work on the best methods they have seen when trying to start up. I had seven drafts till I got hurt a year ago and now would like to be able to re-enter into the draft world and would be interested in the budding newsletter, or group. Would people be willing to contribute on ways they got started? Or ideas for ways to go about securing some first jobs? This sounds like a great way to network and I listen to all the advice from those who have and are willing to give it freely. Thank you for your passion and drive, log safe
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