[PeytonM]

Soory for the typo its a 336, not a 338.

Donn a buddy of mine is doing that, do you have to make the pto shaft solid to the main shaft in the trans being you wont have the motor to turn it? I had my rear end all apart on my hand don’t really remember how things all looked in there, a buddt of mine has a wc he’s gonna do that to and says that he is gonna have a cluch on it still but I don’t understand how he could have on.

I want to make my power cart like the feeder wagons dairy farmers used, its a pipe in side a pipe, and the inside pipe getts t’d bu another and that has spinds and hubs on it and the mount for the pole.

Thanks for all the help!

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Donn,

I have done my fair share of hay work, I would drive the oliver 770 and dad would stand on the kicker wagon and stack the hay to get more on the wagon. I was about 6-7 at the time of that. last summer I did all the round bales for a farmer with a IH 7120 or 7130 and a JD 556? or something like that. thats Hay, soybean and corn stalks. I also cut hay with a NH H8080 one with the mowmax head and a Durabine head, I rather ran the mowmax head, the durabine was nothing but nightmare, one thing broke after another on it. the knives would wear out on the bolt hole before the edge would be worn. I don’t know why and the dealer didn’t know why also.

I just did know how much HP that 338 would take, its got a kicker on it but it doesn’t work, theres a valve or something broke on it so the hay would just fall on the ground. I would just use a flat rack to run around and pick it up.

I also have some questions about your pics Donn, Theres a 3 wheeled PTO cart. How did you find out where 540 would be off the pullys? I want to build something like that cart you have. I was thinking of having a front end done alittle different than what you have. how did you get the brakes on that car also? just trailer brakes drums and spindles? too bad we don’t live closer! We’d have some crazy things. I think i could learn alot from working around you a summer, a lot of home made DIY stuff I see at your place. How did the PTO cart built from a mower work out? how wide is that NH haybine? does it ever make that honda really bog down?

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just the H not a Super. I had it hooked on a green chopper, flail chopper that is a NH and that was really a work out for it. It might be able to handle it if it was just baler and didnt pull a kicker wagon.
dad had a Oliver 770 and a farmall 460 on it both are a 50 hp tractor, but the ones he is selling is a 766 and a 886. the other side of things is dad still has a 1412 NH discbine so if i got in a crunch and ran short on time I would cut with that.. and I need the 7 or 8 to run that.

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Another thing I was thinking of, I don’t want to really call it home made tools, but it is what it is I guess, the home made things that you’ve made for use around the farm. I have a pole that goes in to a steel 4×4 tube and its got a pipe on the end and then two braces and it acts as a quick tach pole for all my carts and I also have a sled I use it on. I have 30 bucks in to it if that and I find it nice for quick break down of wagons. makes it quick to go from one to another. I’m sure that we all have our own things I know the loggers have all kinds of things that they built to make things faster. Maybe that would be something that would step out of the basic idea and teaching you looking to give but I think the idea of being able to build your own equipment and save money.

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I assume that your talking the CAD $ or US $? hay around me is really high in WI. old small sqrs are 4-5 a bail. nice hay is bringing 8 dollars. I got some older hay from a guy that just got a house and barn and wanted it cleaned out. the hay I would say wasnt older that 2 years old and had no mold or anything like that I paid 2 a bail. It wasn’t for anything special just to get a few young stock through the winter. I got some really high quality hay that would be like really good milking cow hay for 45 a big sqr but I lucked out on that deal cause I worked for the guy now and then and helped him build a shop and I got it all early in the fall.

I just didn’t know what teams were bring. last spring I paid 2450 delivered for a team, first one didnt know much about horses and the guy lied to me. said they were 12 and 14 the one is has to be knocking on 20 and the other I’d say is about 15. I was new didnt know much of anything. was more around mini’s. I learned from my mistake and know much more now. I just want to make sure that it was a safe deal for 4500 for a team of younger broke horses. they are lites. 16H.

thanks for the reply chris.

[PeytonM]

a higher grade bolt that is harder will be easier to break, like stated. I would try a grade 5. or weld a 5/8 round stock in it thats stress relieved

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10-4 I’ll harness them up tomorrow and get you a pic or two of them. thanks.

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how far down should they hang? the guy i got the harness has links that are about 4 inches long with a hook on each end that is like a quick snap deal. http://i00.i.aliimg.com/photo/v0/407354938/Double_End_Spring_Snap.jpg these things. but I cant hook them to the rings on the hames unless they sit in on top of the collar, where you keep the 3 finger spacing for the horse and then it just cuts that spacing down or gets hung up on the collar. thanks for the help.

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@Countymouse 39149 wrote:

My brother-in-law is a CPA and he says the two most common sources of inappropriate tax deductions are 1) “Hotrod” cars and 2) Horses. These deductions are big red flags to the IRS, so don’t think you are going to “fly under the radar” doing something illegal. These deductions are especially big red flags when most of your incomes comes from off the farm and you want to claim big, repetative farm losses. If this is what you are thinking of, I recommend being extra careful.

I dont know anyone that goes to work and bust their butt and looks forward to taking a loss.I talked with my mom about it and she said I can all the acres on the west side of their land next year, 60 or so, this year I plan on using the things I have for my horses to farm with and go from there next year, I will cut hay with horses and bail with a tractor. all the ground had corn in it last year and now its getting reseeded for haying ground. so this year might be a little slow start if the spring is rough.

again thanks for all the help and replys.

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thanks for all the help! I think im going to try it just part ways this year and see how things turn out and then all out after that.

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ok well I have about 15 acres for free at ma and dads to farm and about 10 at a friends about 12 miles away. I could prolly get more from mom and dad it all depends on what my folks rent out to other farmers.

I honestly dont really know what to expect to make, cause every year weather is different.

thanks for the help.

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well I think I’m going to buy one this spring if I have enough money. I talked with the people that do my taxes and they said that as long as I’m using my horses to farm with them I can wright it off but if I don’t show some profit with in 3 years they will try and say I’m doing it as a hobby… I don’t know how much hay you’d have to make in a year to bring in a profit but I guess I’ll find out. with the way hay prices were this last year if a feller had any good hay and got small squares made he could made a killing, most the places around here are get 4-6 a bail and I’ve seen 8 and even 10. I know this might be knocking on my self cause I’m a horse guy but I dont under stand why some Horse people spend so much money on crappy hay that most farmers wouldn’t feed to their beef.

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well its not that I dont want to use a tractor, dad has a few IH 886, 766, 460 an oliver 770 and I got a farmall H. but I want to sell my tractor cause she doesn’t have much power for what I’d like to do and buy another team or dad’s 770 just cause it was part of the farm when I grew up. I learned how to drive tractor on that tractor also.

I just figured I have the horses that can do all the work to feed them self, I would have to buy anything extra other than rent the land from my folks.

So if 2 well conditioned horses can handle the cart could 4 handle a bailer and a wagon?

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Well Taylor called me back a few days ago and we had a very nice conversation. He called and we made a little small talk and he asked why I wanted to get in to logging with horses. I told him, a few years back my Grandpas health went south, he lost both his legs above the knee and we always went to see him, the young kid in me got tired of it, I was sick of hearing of horses and the old way, I’d much rather be out on my bike racing and throwing dirt, 2006 I got a phone call while I was loading up to go to the track to race and my mom told me that Gramps had passed. To be honest I took it really hard. A short while later after he was gone a lot of what he told me started to sink in and the biggest thing I regret is never saying thank you to him. So now its early 2012 and my grandma told me that I get to have all of Grandpas horse stuff. I got a bob sled, cutter sleigh and some old harness and collars that were shot. It really bothered me to have all his stuff and not have the ability to put it to use so with my tax return I bought my team of Belgians. So with that being said, 6 years after he passed and a year of learning about my team and how they work together and work with me I didn’t want to let the way my Grandpa lived his life be swept under the rug, I wanted to do my part to keep it alive.

After I explained that to him he told me that he understands and its not that you cant make money at it but its tough. He also talked with me about how to pick lots and how to bid on them and ways of skidding. He told me that he had a job a little bit close towards me at the end of the month and said that if I wanted to I could come out and check it out and see how some things are done.

I also talked about his horse drawn Forwarder he has and I would like to know if anyone on here logs with Hybred powered equipment. I would like some one to post up some pics of the frame work. I have an idea but I have to a closer look at one. I’ve searched google and can find all kinds of pics of them loaded but nobody that makes them to look at them. Taylor said that they can run about 20K.

Thanks for all the help and the reply’s.

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