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Dickel
ParticipantTalk about long poles.
Participant@dlskidmore 39635 wrote:
… and those guys are quite a bit smaller than the riding horses I’m talking about.
I guessed as much. One persons draft horse is another persons riding horse. (:^D
ParticipantTake a trip into youtube and you will be surprised what small horses can do in harness.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCBOS2UWKAAParticipantIf you can find a way to watch the video it would be helpful. It shows how the collar should fit and shows and tells why the traces/tugs should be pulling at a 90 degree angle from the hames to place the load on the horse in the most comfortable place on the horse. If you watch Neil Dimmocks videos and then watch the heavy weight horse pulls you will notice that they are both harnessed the same as far as the pull point. I have watched the many heavy horse pulls on youtube several times each at full screen to see the harness positions. I see something each time I watch that I missed before. Well worth my time anyway. I also watch the European horse work and pulling videos for the same reason. A lot of them use what we or I would call a heavy driving harness for plowing and horse pulls as well as logging.
ParticipantI like these videos for harness details. The first one covers the collar.
Participant@Jonathan Shively 38955 wrote:
I have looked at and threatened to buy off of craigslist a couple of the DR or Swisher trail (rough) mowers. But I have a 6′ bushhog pull type that I haven’t used for years, going to pull it up this spring, take off the PTO shaft, put a belt pulley on it, build an engine stand and put an electric start engine on it. Figure a long choke cable for a throttle cable, electric start and an off button, open the back of the mower up and put a stiff belting on the front over the opening. I am not working in a woods or unmowed ditch banks, I just want to mow pastures. I know my Fjords won’t have any trouble pulling this behind my forecart, quieten the exhaust as best I can so I don’t have ringing in my ears at the end of the day of mowing. Will try to take pictures as I build this contraption.
I can see that working.
ParticipantI see fore carts with three point and an engine that would work with a rotary cutter. Might be more cost than you want to go.
ParticipantFour of my horses are out on pasture and I feed 1/2 cup by measure morning and night. Last month I had the Vet out to give all nine shots and check them out and discuss their diet. I didn’t ask him about the Corn part. The reason I would want to continue to feed a little grain is so I can look them over and handle them. I have a problem walking and can not chase them down to check them up close. One mare that foal this last September is getting 3 cups of the mix. She is maintaining her overall condition and the foal is eating some portion of that amount. The Vet will be back out to geld two stallions later this winter. I will ask him about the advise I read here. Always learning from others ways of caring for horses.
ParticipantI would love to hear this subject debated.
When I started having horses The vet told me to feed hay free choice and no higher than 10% protein sweet feed. I buy 12% protein sweet feed and mix 5 parts oats to 1 part sweet feed. The oats I buy at the feed mill has a lot of whole corn in it. That worries me about the higher protein content and bought a fanning mill to remove the shelled corn. My horses are over weight and I have been cutting down on the grain somewhat to see if they are dropping some of the fat.
Participant@Kenneth F 37928 wrote:
I bought her at the abingdon, VA sale she was broke on his word but became a handful after a couple days here. She’s right pushy with the other horses also. I’ve got a very experienced work horseman helping me but I cant get down there often enough to suit me. he said she was full of grit, stamina, and heart but she was down right hateful said she has got away with a lot somewhere she is 10 yrs old.
If you would have had a chance of watching Clint Anderson Sunday afternoon on RFD TV, Clint and an assistant take the hate out of a horse. Lack of respect is what Clint calls it. I could not find that horse show but his approch is in the video below.
http://www.downunderhorsemanship.tv/episode.aspx
Click on the bottom free show.
ParticipantI love all horses for their personality’s and individual traits. Due to my space available and age I only have and care for the miniature horses. I have nine now and each one reacts different when I work with them as well as how they react to each other. I had riding horses when I was in my twenty’s but my work made it imposable to give them the time needed.
ParticipantI might not be the person to answer your question but when I see one of my horses getting frustrated I stop and start rubbing its head and neck. When every thing is calm I go back to the same thing that caused it to get frustrated and work at it until it get thru it or I need to go back to head and neck rubbing. I may be totally wrong but it is how I do it. Kinda how I have to keep my wife happy. (:^D
Participant@grey 37154 wrote:
It is very important for anything but the lightest of wheeled vehicles. The traces should pull from the hames at a 90 degree angle. To do otherwise will – at the very least – make the horse work less efficiently. At the worst, you will injure the horse.
I would guess that Neil Dimmock has that type is because of his heavy wagons where the double tree is quite high. To pull at 90 degrees the double tree would have to be just above the horses heels. Am I correct my thinking?
Participant@J-L 37148 wrote:
His harness is different than mine. My tugs are solid from the hames back to the tug chains, where his go to a ring first. Never saw any like that. More similar to a D ring style.
My tugs hook to the hames as well but I do kinda understand his saying to pull at a direct 90 degrees off the collar. His style would do that. Not sure how important but for heavy pulling I can see how it would help.
Participant@Kenneth F 37124 wrote:
Very interesting videos
That is what I thought. Me being totaly green with team harnessing I have watched those videos several time and pick up something I somehow missed on the viewing of them before. After watching the videos I have found the team harness I purchased was not compleat and have made the missing straps/parts.
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