[Kyle]

Sorry. The dap site is working
Weird on my phone. It’s a hay stacker a rake and a harrow. Here is the craigslist link.

http://newjersey.craigslist.org/zip/4404416376.html

[Kyle]

I once spoke with a very reputable livestock supplement company about purchasing a few of their products including an electrolyte mix. The nutrition consultant could have tried to sell me any number of products they carry. Instead he recommended mixing up a good old fashion batch of switchel. For those of you unfamiliar, its a drink traditionally had at haying time. He said Water with a little apple cider vinegar mixed w honey, molasses, maple syrup, or sugar will provide all the electrolytes an animal (or person) needs and is much more cost effective than purchasing electrolyte mixes. I like to ad a little mint and drink it myself whenever I feel dehydrated.
Hope this helps.

[Kyle]

I live near hackettstown and may be able to be of some help if you are still looking.
Thanks

[Kyle]

Hi thanks for all the replies. I bought the rake. The price was too good to pass up. It’s pretty much field ready. Besides 3 or 4 broken tines. But it came with 40 extra as well as new bolts and washers for them!
It is a vicon brand. I don’t have an exact date but i think it is from the 1950s. I can find almost no info on it or adjusting though

[Kyle]

Thanks. I’ll just get a Tedder too. Just wanted to be sure as My experience with the wheel rakes is limited as I said before. How do they compare to a side delivery? It looks like it still lays it in a windrow like a side delivery

[Kyle]

Im going to buy it
Now I just need to find a trailer long enough to haul it
Does this function as rake and Tedder or would I still need 2 separate implements

[Kyle]

Turns out to be a regular pin hitch. There are 2 tires on the other side of the wheels. One at each end. And a trailer jack at the hitch end.
It’s 15′ long he said. And 7′ wide

[Kyle]

As you can tell I haven’t had much time to get on the forums! I definitely anticipate herding dogs as part of my farming future. One of our older dogs is a border collie mix. She had no formal herding training. When we first started rotating our goats between pastures we would lead out front with grain and she would take up the rear and flank the sides rounding up stragglers without any instruction. After a few weeks of this she ran to the front one day turn and faced the goats and barked, sending them scattering in the opposite directions. We quickly responded with a firm “no”. After that day she never wanted to participate again even when we encouraged her. As a result I have been hesitant to have the new pup participate without formal training from someone experienced. I suppose a book or video could be a good stepping off point though.

[Kyle]

i should also add that ours is just a pet. I’d love to put him to work but don’t know enough about herding dogs. But from the first time he was introduced to the cows and horses it was obvious he wanted to work them. I’ve even thought he has enough grit to work pigs if someone trained him from a pup.

[Kyle]

We have a dog that we believe is a McNab cross. He is a rescued stray from an area with a lot of mcnabs and resembles the pictures we have seen of mcnabs but he is smaller (kinda looks like a mcnab beagle cross?!). From what I understand they were imported from scotland by the mcnab family. They are believed to be descended primarily from short haired border collies. I noticed the herding ability of ours well before I knew what a mcnab was. Especially around the horses and cows. I believe the mcnabs imported them to herd sheep but ours seems to prefer cows. heres more info: http://flyballdogs.com/personal/mcnab.html

[Kyle]

Check out the latest issue of Small Farmers Journal. There is an article with lots of pictures about someone’s simple homemade ground drive pto cart.

[Kyle]

here is a pic of the jockey yokes I made and the neck yoke for my cultivator. I made the mistake of not making all my steels match so my friend who welded most of it had to slab it on a little in places. (This is part of the reason I am always checking the welds) He did not make the one that broke though. That one was made by guy in PA and came with the cart.

The primary advantage of the pin or ring style is that the neck yoke is easily transferable as apposed to a bolt. I did read in the thread that your style of yoke allows the yoke instead of the pole end to stick out furthest in front which some people liked. Do you think that the pin is safer than the ring style? Is your style stronger by design than say the style pioneer makes? My teachers always told me to not use ring style because the possibility of it slipping off was there even if it is unlikely with the harness properly adjusted. (but here I am with a broken bolt on!)
I do like the idea in the another current thread in the equipment section about using a ball and receiver hitch and having one tongue for most implements. They are using it with oxen not horses though. I wonder about combining that idea with your neck yoke but bolting the neck yoke on to the pole permanently.

[Kyle]

Here are the pictures. The red one is the chain links welded. THe wooden one is round stock bent into eyebolts welded shut. I made a similar one to the red one for my cultivator and will post a picture of that too. I haven’t had any problems with it yet.
George, I like the design in your thread. It is beyond my fabrication skills at this point but I have read it and bookmarked it. Since the jockey yokes are fixed to the neck yoke do you make a separate set of jockey yokes for every implement? I have always been told to avoid the ring end style unless using a safety latch with it. Am I understand that this pins in the end and then is bolted in place also? as it seems like the pin would have a similar draw back of being able to slip out if used without bolting. Or is it just the metal receiver that is bolted to it with the neck yoke just pinning into this?
Thanks

[Kyle]

The owners didn’t ask me to do it for them, and I don’t intend to. They just asked if I knew an option they could use. They are comfortable doing it themselves and prefer to do it themselves to having a vet do it. I passed on the idea of the vet house visit to them though. Their current vet doesn’t offer house visits, but they are going to contact some other local vets about this. Thanks

[Kyle]

i’d love to see a few pictures of the “nearly indestructible” cart!

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