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Hi Jason,

That looks great!
The reality type logging shows on TV now are fun to watch for me dispite the sensationalism and pandereing to the cameras that is obviously going on in these shows. I genuinely look forward to your success both with the show and the message.

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Yeah Josh,
She did mention that he was gelded and that it was hereditary but I figured that with all the growing he has left to do, I am just trying to get a handle on the odds of him taking care of some or most of the problem on his own. No big deal for me though, it’s just another thing to keep an eye on. He has plenty of heart and brings out the best in both of the other two I team him with. I am not going to worry too much about it. Like I mentioned he is well nourished at this point.

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yeah I got a couple growing neck cases as well. I can sweat them out in short order though. I use adjustable collars too Michael. To start them off with them I unbuckled one side at first and now they push through by themselves. When I am using the one size collar I can leave them fastened and they push through that now too. Just another desensitization I guess.

Larry

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Still 2+ feet of snow up here in my neck of the woods. Starting my plants from seed indoors next weekend. I got a month or better before I start playing in the dirt.

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Not trying to discourage you here Rob, but stay in school and work for that kind of job. Hindsight is always 20/20 and in life you don’t get too many do overs. The mules and the scenery will be better lived and appreciated well earned my friend. When you get there, live the heck out of it.

Larry

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Horsemadire,

Welcome to the group. You will find it to be a very helpful resource with people that have a tremendous willingness to help if you haven’t already. About your problem, I can’t say that I have had that issue before, but it seems to me that you describe that the problem seems to be only the pole and that they seem to drive as a team just fine in other apps. that don’t require a pole. Maybe try mecanically attaching a pole to a neck yoke and just ground drag it around hitched to their collars unattached to any type of vehicle for a while until they get used to it. Then after familiarization I would attach a pole to a worksled or similar. Best I can do with limited experience. Or I guess you could just persist with what you are doing and sooner or later they will come around after more esposure to it. Maybe with an assistant(s) on a leadrope to the offending horse(s) for encouragement. Good luck though I am sure others will chime in here.

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Carl thanks for posting this. I have many times thought that draft animals could provide this type of service to utility companies especially in remote power / communications line construction. Communication networks have been my bread and butter for some thirty years. Be it mostly inside and private. I guess I wasn’t far from the mark after all. I would like to meet Mr Desmaris and see if there is any possibility of him making suggestions or giving some advice on helping to start me out doing this with contacts in NH. I am kinda impressed with myself for my own thoughts on this subject and I think I am going to start taking myself more seriously from now on.

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I don’t have any ed but these are in Milford
http://nh.craigslist.org/grd/2225973709.html

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Hi John. I have run three abreast with 2 D-rings and a belly backer and mixed both types with just a x2 team also. I think it only matters with the neck yoke attachment. The D-ring harness implements a shorter jockey yoke attached to the neck yoke and the belly backer would just attach to the neck yoke with the single combination snap hook on the breast strap. there is a bunch of information on this site about the D-ring harness with pics too. There have been recent threads about the three abreast vs. D-ring harnesses benefits / efficiencies recently and I think the harness type harness mix may only make those types of issues more complicated; but as always in this sport there is a required degree of flexibility.

Probably, and I am learning here too, so someone could correct me for sure. I think that the best of both worlds would be to hitch the double tree of the triple evener accross the pole and use the D-rings there of the with the jockey / neck yokes; and hitch the belly backer off the pole and not connected to a neck yoke at all just to the remaining single tree.

Larry

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I can dig that!! Awesome.

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Based upon my experience with my gelding’s older brother comming to my place for a play date last summer and watching how they interacted. I would say yes. They seemed to at least have some kind of familiarity with eachother albeit over a fence. We teamed them together and had no issues just as they had been teamed before, maybe 4 years ago. My guy would have been a yearling at that time and his brother 4.

As to whether or not they knew they were brothers? I am inclined to believe horses are not capable of that kind of rationality. There seems to be too much going on in the flight / fright department of the brain housing group to waste effort and energy on emotion. I am not a horsey head shrinker but certainly it can’t be anything like the emotional bond that is experienced with humans. Surely there are good mothers etc. but I tend to favor justification of instinct. Merely a familiar “similar” creature in the same pasture. Social support and potential help with protection against predatures if they are not threatened by eachother. Are we talking about a stud colt or gelding? You may be concerned about the wrong set of problems.

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I’ll give it a shot George.

Your Jack saddle is my market strap. I always thought the terms Jack Saddle and back pad were interchangeable.

rear side strap: extends from d-ring to britchen
back straps: goes from hames through jack saddle to britchen

Don’t know exactly what the croup is on a horse but besides that, yes the britchen is around the back side of the horse between tail and knees held up by the hip drops providing hold back. The crupper is from the spider over the top, back under and around the dock of the tail.

hope I helped you out here.

Larry

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I don’t cut linseed oil either. Just paint it on and rub it out tomorrow and repeat. Maybe not as efficient? Seems to do a good job, and I like the results.

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I only have a low fence on the outside. To be honest I can actually say I planned it that way from the beginning. The top course of tape is 5.5 feet high. I can still compact about 4 more feet of snow inside. But we are working on de-energizing the second course here abouts. Next Tuesday I think, if things go as they have been normally occurring. Snow again this weekend…. Thankfully February is a short month. Gates wouldn’t work yesterday so went to work scraping and digging them out last night.

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yeah no fooling. I was self-employed in communications for several years. Same issues with work and labor. Gone are the days you could look another person in the eye and shake hands to agree on a result. It is considered naive and ruthless individuals with no character will “run a person through” for a lack of luck or misfortune, despite intent. It is all about the dollars and whoever or however they can be accumulated. No matter the cost. Mark I am interested in where this thread goes too.

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