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ParticipantI just thought that with the horse farm land being generally more friable the min till might be an easier transition than the traditional tractor farm. It would be great to have the modern systems available to horse farmers. Surely horse farmed land doesnt have the same pan problems as the tractor boys ??….
JohnParticipantMin till and no till seem to be the by word in arable circles nowadays. Is there any equipment that horse farmers can use for this I wonder ? The min till cultivators I saw down south were really heavy, but suspect they need to be so heavy to break up the compaction caused by years of heavy tractor use..
JohnParticipantI know im late in on this Tim, but been in Oxfordshire for 8 weeks… Cover cropping is not widely used in the UK and I was wondering how this mix in your fotos are incorperated ? Do you graze it down with sheep before tillage ? or does it die back enough to plow under ? …
JohnParticipantThis should scare the crap out of every decent thinking person !!!. If you ask me God holds the patents to pretty much everything .. Marketing is the key to this companies power. They have so much clout they can make the public think they are saving the world… next thing will be a terminator gene in livestock so we have to buy all stock from them !!!
JohnParticipantMitch that is exactly what I mean unfortunatly.. a few folks getting the real benefits. Investors are destroying the land and the country infrastructure in the name of pure profit.. they miss the bigger picture by chasing the £$£$. I look at farming as having to jump a few fences to get to where you want to be.. this lot on the other hand use the biggest machines and drive out the people.. Thing that bothers me is this… is land ever again going to be in such decline that the Mr Bigs dont see it as a good “investment” and they give us small guys a chance ???.. The farmer I worked for when I first left home once told me that his dad got the chance to take on a farm rent free for three years to try and make a go of it during the real depression of the 30s. He never looked back and his grandchildren now farm 3 farms..
JohnParticipantHi Geoff.. I do remember the hydroponic idea. They tried to market it over here to the horse world as the savior for those with no grass !!.. As for yields, I was surprised at just how average they were. Wheat ran at roughly between 3.2 and 3.8 tons/acre.. That was on the combine moniter. The manager reconed that was normal and he was happy enuf. I suppose compared to some areas of the world they are high but I can remember talking with Bivol on this forum and he told me of a small farmer in his part of the world that was getting 6 tons/acre!!… At the above yields and with milling wheat at £170/ ton they dont have a huge margin and no room for errors. It was interesting to hear the manager say that the yields hadnt went up by any great ammount in 20 years.. the only change was the manpower had been slashed..
JohnParticipantRural Heritage managed to upset Uncle Sam !?!?! Wow … now im impressed :cool:……
JohnParticipantAh… I see what you ment now Geoff:D.. yes Ireland is West of here.. Its funny but I was talking to a friend of mine and he reminded me of your Declaration of Independance and how you have the right to say what you want ???. I try and stay out of politics but they dont half make me mad sometimes.. What is RH ?…
JohnParticipantOur lot are just as bad at that nonesense Scott.. BP are stirring it up with you guys now, with that mess they made:(.. and every day they bring a body bag into Briz Norton airfield from Afghanistan… but thru it all, its always boiled back to the USA and Britain wading in to sort other folk out ???..as if our own back yards are spotless… You’re right tho it has been pretty quiet.. I’ll need to think of something to throw in and stand back :D…
JohnParticipantHey Scott… Apparantly the saying “go west” became popular in WW1. The Western front generaly ran North/South with the allies facing East. Injured troops went West.. Earlier uses were refering to the hangmans jibot at Tyburn which in the 1700s was west of London.. so a prisoner was “going West” to his death.. The “heading South” that you guys use is becomming popular over here too.. I can only imagine it may have started when the war between the states was on and the northerners perhaps used it to imply that “South” was a less than nice place ??? or mabey its simply because South to us is down.. who knows… I dont want to start an international incident here:D…
JohnParticipant😀 yes, but England will be alright when they get independence Marshall…
… Im only kidding before my English friends jump in;)…
JohnParticipantYes thats the same cutting height, give or take, I use too..nice to know im doing something right :D..
JohnParticipantnot Ireland…Scotland…
JohnParticipantGeoff I can assure you that hay making turns every person involved go completly gaga!! over here I spend any spare moment scanning the skyline for the faintest of clouds…are those cows laying down ? any sign that the weather is to break sets me off.. I think if we went to any corner of the planet we would find normaly sane farmers going off the rails.. why do we say “corners of the planet” BTW ? I gave up my subscription to the Flat Earth Society ages ago !!
JohnParticipantHey Mitch when that pair of mine step out, that old Albion I got shakes so bad I get double vision:D…
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