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simon lenihan
Participantlooks good donn, keep working on it, i wonder would it pull easier with wider runners. I used a sledge for a few years made by tegmyr svets in sweden it had 9″ runners made of a very hard plastic material about half an inch thick, it traveled very well over rough ground and pulled easy.
simon lenihanParticipantjac,
[ quote, i bought a gelding about 5 years ago that spent its life in the woods] just wondering if this was a clyde and if it came out of scotland.
simon lenihanParticipantjason,
first pic should explain previous text better, second one is where handler has to move posts between stakes while horse stands quietly another part of the course is where a large log is again wedged so it cannot move, the handler has to pull the pole over the log and try and find the point of balance.
simon lenihanParticipantJason,
The bottom two logs are secured together with small stakes driven into the ground on both sides and in front to stop them moving,the aim of horse and handler is to pull the pole on top of these two logs and try and get it flush with the bottom two.
simon lenihanParticipantThe system used in scandinavia is for the runners to push the shaft ends into the ground going down steep slopes, the same system can be used with a pole, with this system you can safely take huge loads down steep gradients.
simon lenihanParticipantwe need to get more folk from this side of the pond participating, i think we should contact FECTU and get them to put the word around, you are doing trogan work scott, it will all come good in the end.
simon lenihanParticipantclip the feather and it will grow back coarser and make it worse, treat once a week with pig oil and sulphur.
simon lenihanParticipantsame here carl, again posing as forum administrator.
simon lenihanParticipantThe horselogging competition at pferde starke in germany is a very difficult and challenging course for singles and teams, this years even was watched by several thousand people and was one of the highlights of the show along with the pulling competition. The teamster has to guide his horse or horses through narrow posts approx 4 foot high with only a couple of inches to spare at either side, there are small timber cones on top of the posts which they must avoid knocking off [ pic 1, 067] pic 1 is the start of the course they proceed from here through more obstacles across a timber bridge over a stationary log in which they are supposed to balance the pole, another part of the course involves turning the horse or team around so they are facing the end of the pole, they then have to push the log backwards between two posts with cones on top and push a post that is lying flat on the ground with a flat board nailed to the top of the post backwards, [ fig 2, 217 ], they finish off by placing the log they are skidding on top of two stationary logs. [ fig 3, 063 ]
simon lenihanParticipantjim,
How do we determine a horselogger?, i have real issues with this and it is something that needs to be addressed. There are folk who advertise themselves as professional horseloggers who are not. I am not against anyone who works part time, even a couple of weeks a year but when they are selling their services they need to inform the people they are working for and tell them what they can expect from their services. There are forest managers over here that will not use horses under any circumstances due to bad experiences, i have tried in vain to get them to re consider but to no avail. A mechanised system can destroy a forest and cost thousands reinstating, yet the following week they are working 2 miles down the road and no one seems to care, yet a bad horse job and that seems to be it, disgrunteled foresters spreading the bad news, this is why we have to be cautious, just my 2 cents worth.
simon lenihanParticipantGood luck in your new venture donn, working difficult and steep ground is what we always offered, if i had to start all over again i would be avoiding these conditions, you could get alot of calls from wood owners whose woods are on very steep slopes and have never been worked and before you know it this could account for most of your work.
simon lenihanParticipantI think when something like this happens it should be reported to the relevant authorities, it is all well and good for you and i to be upset but this needs to be highlited, papers, local radio station etc. Its unbelievable that a contractor who looses his permit can then get one in his wifes name, how dumb are these people.
simon lenihanParticipantKeith was unloading the forwarder when he met this kiwi horselogger and his partner, if it is the same guy there might have been a misunderstanding as my eldest son is also called simon and was absent that week, keith thought it was simon jnr he was looking for. This guy also spoke about portable sawmilling to keith so lets see if it is the same guy.
simon lenihanParticipantkiwi horselogger met one of my sons at the loading bay at great knott wood cumbria but never came up the wood to meet the rest of us, his partner is from kendal in cumbria, same guy?
simon lenihanNovember 30, 2009 at 11:21 pm in reply to: For possible sub group and phone number for Lancek #55645ParticipantCarl,
over here when the forest owner builds new roads we the horseloggers seem to lose out. We lose out because the advantage of difficult acess is now lost, the forest is now open to all harvesting systems. Trees that probably should not be cut are now cut to build a new road, it creates a wind tunnel resulting in alot of windblow. One of the reasons foresters are slow in using horseloggers is all down to extraction distances, they are slow to use our services if the distance exceeds 200 meters. This is why wheeled equipment was developed in scandinavia during the early 80s so as to keep pace with the advent of modern machinery. It was not the ideal solution but it did keep horselogging ticking over in these countries and it also opened up new work as with this new equipment it meant longer extraction distances could be covered. The finnish forestry divison did a time and motion study of the horse drawn forwarder that we use on a site outside helsinki, tree species was birch, average extraction distance was 465 meters, daily production 65 cubic meters. No roads were built, it was a complete selection thinning, 20 to 25% more trees would have to be taken had it been done by machines, where ever a skid cart and team of horses can get through so can these horse drawn forwarders. i personaly think that we should be looking at methods of not only extracting with horse drawn forwarders but also of using other wheeled equipment to move longer and heavier lengths from the forest
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