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ParticipantThe best views are after about 2:55. Short pole to mid horse with shafts for each horse.
Participanthttps://youtu.be/2pikqXJeOAg is another vdeo I just foung while procrastinating. Hard to see but it looks like two sets of shafts set up to a sprung evener. No pole sticking out here.
Participanthttps://youtu.be/0D_ZyDPLUQE (YouTube) is an interesting short hitching example for singles in swedish style harness. I especially like the shaft to sled connection. Check out the tethered release pin.
ParticipantThis photo definitely shows a pole sticking out for a team rig. I have been researching these also but I haven’t found a great advantage for tem work yet. Anyone else?
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You must be logged in to view attached files.ParticipantThanks. Living out in isolation on the island there are some things I just don’t have access to. Thanks for the help.
ParticipantNice work Jay. What do you call the hook piece on the end of your chain and do you have a source for them? It appears to work as a choker? I am using a standard clevis grab hook. If I look at it wrong the chain drops out and I have to reset it.
ParticipantWish I could have been there.
ParticipantDash board later. Sorry about the typo. And Ed Thayer, the perfect solution for your horses not liking to be worked alone is to add my Canadian gelding to your herd!! He’s still available. Rides and drives. 🙂
ParticipantAs far as the pack saddle. They aren’t cheap. I bought a used forecart for less than that $200.00 home made)and it is more versatile. A used wagon to pull it or even a simple stone boat you could make yourself. A couple of used 4×4’s, some planks or even plywood, and some chain is all you need. It doesn’t have to be fancy. My first stoneboat was made from two locust fence posts where too rotten for that use. I cut some old 2×6 and nailed it on. Ran a chain and ring through the front of the runners. I used it with my single horse for about 6 years. I even added a dashboard latter with more left over fencing parts. Just be careful to not let it underrun the horse on steep hills but there are simple solutions for this too. Good luck!
ParticipantI looked for some time for the right team of morgans and it is tough. http://www.cornerstonemorganclub.com/ is a great foundation morgan breed club. What I found is if I was going to get a good Morgan team I was going to pay too much money (way more than is feasible for a farm team) or I would be training them. I am pretty new to driving/working horses with a background in driving so I really needed a trained, experienced team to learn from. I ended up with a phenomenal team of canadians after years of looking for morgans. Not being in the North East USA or Western Canada it might be tough for you to find this breed. For Morgans, Lippitt Morgans are the more direct line to Figure, and everyone has strong opinions here but… they call it line breeding when it works and inbreeding when it doesn’t so if you are looking for horses to train really vet out the breeder. Good solid western working lines are a safe place to start looking. Neil Perry has a young team right now but he has breed and trained his own; still he might be a good place to look. But I agree with Donn. Be open about the breed and you will end up with the right horse which is how things luckily worked out for me. Since you are down south, try looking into Mountain Horses too. Size was a real issue for me, I’m not sure if it is for you but I wanted horses I could work, could really cover ground with a carriage and I could ride. I have to teach my new team how to ride but I also have a single canadian that can do both until I get the new team under saddle. Here is a link to video from the DAPNet facebook page of Mountain horses at work.https://www.facebook.com/RMH.sentinel.oak.farm/posts/937762386308694?fref=nf
Keep us posted and good luck!!! Best thing that ever happened to me was finding DAPNet and getting the support that lead to me getting my first team just this summer so we are all here to help.
ParticipantI recall an article about a fellow who was able to win his municipal trash pick-up contract using his team due to lower overhead. Maybe Rural Heritage? I’ll try to find it. I too would love to hear more about your business plan.
ParticipantMidwest Leather (who advertises on this site) know the d-ring harness very well and would make just the leather tugs for you. I have had d-ring harness made to my numbers with help from them in Bio-thane and they are great,
ParticipantGood question. I am interested in an answer to this also.
WillParticipantThe sliding tongue is a great idea Donn. Living in exile on the island here makes used equipment unlikely as an option. If it is not here it means a boat ticket, drive with trailer that adds up to almost the cost of new running gear. That said if you fins a good bargain out there let me know, maybe we could get that visit to Cortland in. Wood fifth wheel…. I’ll do some research on that. I hadn’t considered anything but steel.
ParticipantA funny anecdote. When my wife and I were first dating, I was helping her take care of a friend’s horses on the farm we know own. Well, Melissa tells me a story about a thoroughbred hunter jumper that she was working with. He was a biter. Despite being aware, he got her one day. Without thinking or planning (Donn’s right, timing is everything) she turn around and bites him on the neck. Mind you, Melissa was only about 14 at the time. She ended up competing and winning with that horse (Chico) for a long time and never had another biting incident! Carl, you sound encourage and I am glad for you.
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