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I have a couple of them as well. I found the solar kiln book to be particularly valuable. Most of the plans you find online are for smaller scales. Also found the cooperating land owner idea interesting. Overall I would recommend the books as well.

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I’m not a climatologist but my understanding is that climate change will, in the near future, make weather events tend more toward the extreme. We have been very mild here as well, but last week we had near record lows. The weather weirdness affects the jet stream, if it is driven south for a prolonged period of time, this could cause an uncommonly bitter winter. Unfortunately, it seems to be more or less unpredictable from year to year, so far. Interestingly, the melting arctic ice may be shifting the Gulf stream, which would cool Europe.

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Thanks Donn,
That makes sense.

[JJK]

I hesitate to add this since others experience outweighs mine by a very large margin, but sometimes different words make sense to different people. Also writing it out and subsequent critiques help me to understand better.

The Braden cart has the evener and hooks at the same level. If the evener is below the hooks the log and horses will be spinning the axle in the same direction, and lifting the pole. Points level to and higher than the hooks will turn the axle opposite the log, lifting it. I think the evener is put level with the hooks since this is the lowest ,i.e. best draft, that will also counteract the rotation caused by the log. So from this aspect above or below the pole doesn’t matter, just the relationship to the chain hooks.
Josh

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Hey Carl,
I imagine this was covered at the demonstration, sorry if you’re repeating yourself. In the go-devil thread you mentioned that the wagon had you eyeballing wood that you would normally leave to rot. Was this in reference to personal use or commercial? I was hoping you would expand a little on the economics that brought that statement. I.E. you can move X # of cords/tons/mbf with Y value on the landing. I understand it’s not as simple as that but general info could be helpful. Thanks
Josh

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Donn,
I got thinking about it, it would be basically how your cart is but with a bar across the backside of the seat with the hooks on it. Might just be chasing diminishing returns tho, or throwing something else out of wack that I haven’t considered.

Ps we must have sent the last two replies at the same time, I hadn’t read your comment before sending mine. I can see how, if read a certain way it might come off as snippy, that wasn’t my intention.

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Carl ny your understanding is right. I’m not great at articulating my thoughts. The wheels, seat, and hooks would remain the same, the backing plate would move 10 inches forward to the front of the seat frame. If you’re hooked ten inches or so back on the log this will allow you to get close to perpendicular with the chain so more lift (if I’m thinking about it right). This might require some braces since the framework is moved. Maybe it’s not worth the lost storage space but it seems this design has more room to play with than most arch designs. Just wondering what folks thought about it. Thanks.
Josh

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I have been looking over the Barden plans as well. I was wondering if it was worth considering bringing the back forward to the front side of the seat. It shouldn’t require more material other than maybe a couple braces. You would lose the storage space under the seat, but this would allow you to straddle the log a little to shorten the chain even more. I guess this would put more weight on the pole. Would this be too much? I’m just thinking out loud not saying there’s anything wrong with the plans as they are.

Josh

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I don’t know where you’re at but I found them here: newyorkloggertraining.org
Also found some through the PA sustainable forestry initiative. Your state’s branch may list them as well. Hope this helps.

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Thanks Erika, will do that.

[JJK]

Hey Donn
I signed up about a week ago, I didn’t think much of it at the time but it occurred to me that no contact info was taken. Does the site get it through PayPal? If that’s the case it would be under my wife’s name and possibly a wrong address since we just moved. Do I need to call/email someone about it? Thanks

Josh

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Me too

Josh

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If it works half as good as it looks you’re golden. What is the purpose of the rabbets?
Happy New year
Josh

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At risk of derailing the natural evolution of this thread, I found it here: orionforestry.co.uk for 22 pounds which Google tells me is about 33 dollars. Don’t know what the pond jump would cost or if they’d even do it. If enough were interested maybe a box of them could be shipped.

Josh

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Hey Brad
Sorry I don’t have any help for marketing, but I wanted to ask a couple questions about your firewood sales, if you’re willing.
1) I was wondering how you sold it, i.e. to processors, or whole logs for individuals to process for themselves, or already split…?
2) Do you have a minimum diameter that you find is economically efficient to bring out? I know for the stove at home we’d go all the way to 3ish inches, but making time wasn’t usually a priority.
I’m glad to hear that you can bring firewood out economically. We are in mixed hardwoods here and I’d like to get into doing the improvement work that you guys are doing, and that would produce a lot of firewood I’m thinking. Here you can buy split wood for $180-200 a cord, maybe a bit cheaper some places, how does that compare with you?
Thanks and good luck.
Josh

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