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Norm got back to me and has the part needed. It seems International take a “S” style detachable chain, its a little hard to come by on the internet but Norm has it in stock.

Also looking for a sprocket that is connected to the rear beaters, part number 3258S. The art number is stamped into the teeth of the sprocket. Anyone have anything laying around?

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Yokes and eveners aren’t too expensive. I made the same mistake. After that I made sure to buy extras so I can keep sets in the trailer and at the farm.

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Would like to talk to the owner Nick, thanks!

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Cant figure out how to add the video in the slick way you all did, sorry! You will just have to click the link…

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Here a video of my log loading system. Its really simple, just a cable attached to a chain in the middle of the log, then around a pulley tied to the tree, then to the arch. With a well shaped pile and well placed rails, the horses dont have too much trouble getting 16′ pine butt logs up to the top of the pile. The log truck parks on the road behind the pile when it loads. I try to stack up at least 5.5 mbf to make sure there always a little more than one load for the trucker so i never some up short. I am careful not too stack too much because i just have to restock it after the trucker picks up With this system the trucker can show up without me being there and just load up and be on his way.
I might add a second pulley to the system, i might attach the cable to the tree then to a pulley with a grab hook that attaches to the log then back to the tree, then to the cart. I think this might generate a more controlled pull and allow for more delicate log placement on the stack.
I am hesitant to get into parbuckling because its such a pain to get chains out form under the big logs once they are inn place on the pile, the fewer chains i have to wrestle out the from the log pile the better. If the chain is really stuck i can hook it to the cart to pull it out but i usually work by myself and that a lot of climbing on and off the cart and pile.

[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm7oBmt1m04&w=560&h=315%5D

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After shipping three loads to the mill i have settled on a way to manage my landing. The landing is a field that runs along a dirt road that is plowed regularly. There is a slight down hill slope from the field to the edge of the road. There a foe trees at the edge of the road spaced about 30′ apart. After talking with the trucking and seeing how far he could reach with his grapple i have started making two piles, one pile of 10 and 12 foot logs and the other of 14 and 16 foot logs. The mill prefers the longer logs so i have been trying to cut things longer, this keep my 10 to 12′ log pile pretty small, i stack that pile by hand. The long log pile gets pretty big and hard to stack by hand especially when the logs are icy. I have mounted a pully on a tree at the back center of the pile so that i can hook in the middle of the log and pull it up the rails onto the pile. Its hard work for the horses and sometimes the logs get a little crooked but they get onto the top of the pile. Its been working pretty well. i have a nice schedule of cutting for one full day then bringing the horses for the next two days and i can get about 6mbf on the landing. Its nice have a short 400ft skid! I have been trying to get just a little more than the truck can fit stacked up because once the truck comes i have to re-stack all the logs. I end up stockpiling logs up the hill to once i re-set my landing i can start my stack again.

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send me an mail and i will pass one along, sage.tyler at gmail dot com

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That would be awesome tom, I’m login to give you a call in the next few days with some questions.

My first load is login to lashway. They take 10′ to 16′. i have only one pile of all mixed lengths. After doing this i realize that the pile will be annoying to sort through while loading. After the first load gets shipped i will reorganize into to two piles, the trucker i hope to use can take 24′, i will sort 10′ and 12’s in one pile and 14 and 16 in another, this way the trucker can double up the 12 and add a layer of 16 or 14 on top.

Any ideas on how far the reach is on a standard tri axle? i have been stacking as high as i can get them in hopes of not having to move logs behind when the trucker shows up.

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Hey Jared

Whats the height on your trailer? Any one else have minimum interior height recommendations for 16-17 hand team? Shopping around for a new trailer…..preferably 16 ft aluminum Gooseneck, if anyone has any leads…..

-Tyler

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How big is the filly? Broke to a harness? Even been driven in a team?

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I have a single horse and she seems very content. She came from a farm where she was with 2 other horses. When she first arrived she seemed slightly edgy, whinnying occasionally for the first few days but in the past few months she has settled in nicely. She gets harnessed and worked about twice a week and on the days where she doesn’t get harnessed I try to do a small amount of ground work to keep her engaged.

The only problem I am running into with my single is deciding whether to set up my equipment for use with a single or double. I am shopping for an additional horse right now so I don’t want to invest to much in setting up my wagons, sleds, forecart or log arch to be used with a single only to have to switch them back once a get a second horse. If i had to go through a summer season with only one horse I would probably purchase or fabricate a set of shafts. For now, a lose hitched stone boat has been helping me accomplish most tasks with the use of shafts.

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For the record, I actually only ran about 8 inches of weld on the project, the whole thing has been a collaboration between myself, Lauren Bruns, and Mike Bruns, Mike has an incredible metal fabrication shop up in Maine. Mike and I worked out the design using my limited experience logging and his experience in metal fabrication. Lauren and I cut all the steel and she and Mike welded it all together. Together we got the whole thing put together in 2 12ish hour days.

Thanks for the feedback. I thought about doing a release systems but had limited time in the shop to figure it out. Also most of my experience is with the piggy back arch where its pretty easy to just grab the loose end of the chain and give it a snap to pop the chain out of the grab hook, thought I could do the same on the new one, i could also always go back and add some bells and whistles.

The thought of logging without that front rail scares me. In the design we also made the floor space bigger allowing for more storage.

Im wonder what people are using for a pole length on their arches (measured form neck yoke stop to evener pin)(to be used with a d-ring harness)… in the future I’m hoping to fit the arch and a team in a trailer similar to what Brad describes doing.

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I would attend

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Logging arch update and pictures:

This very loosley is based on the plans available from Jason Rutledge at Healing Harvest Forest Foundation. A few changes were made to improve strength and durability, these changes did add more weight but hopefully it will be worth it in the long run. One downfall in strengthening the frame was loosing about four inches of clearance below the point where logs are hitched. This lack of clearance will only effect logs over 28″ in diameter. An added feature is the removable tow bar across the back of the arch. This will make the arch more versatile as a forecart.

Will give more details once the arch gets painted and into the woods.

not sure why some of the images got rotated…

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I am working with a fabricator on a log arch right now. I am using Jason Rutledge’s plans with few modifications. The modifications include a rail to protect the rider from falling forward and a mount to attach the pioneer seat assembly. I will show pictures when it gets made.

Healing Harvest Forest Foundation Arch Plans:
http://www.healingharvestforestfoundation.org/log-arch-plans.html

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